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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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2004 Water Pump failed @ 14k!

On the way home from work today, the water pump went out on my '04 F150... the truck only has 14k miles on it! It was scheduled to go to the dealership tomorrow for work on the vibration issue. When I called the service manager to let him know they were towing my truck in - he said that it must have been the water pump causing the vibration... what an idiot.


Anyone else had any problems with the water pumps going out so soon?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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nope i think you are the first. how do you know it went out?
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Was driving home one day and was hearing an un-familiar noise - I thought the heat shield on the converter was loose and didn't think much of it. But when I left the stop sign about a block from my house - water and steam went everywhere and the engine started running very rough. Since I had no warning lights and the temp was staying down I drove it home and called Ford Roadside assistance. They had it on a Rollback within 30minutes and on its way to the dealership.

It proved to be the inner bearing that gave out - replaced the pump with no problem and runs fine. The service manager asked if the engine started acting different after the coolant ran out - I explained what happened and he said that was a new feature on the new trucks kicking in. Apparently to avoid heat damage, the computer shuts down 4 cylinders and keeps 4 firing. The 4 dead ones pull air into the engine to keep it 'cool'. He said you could drive about 10 miles on this system without any damage. I'm glad I only had about a block to travel. He was concerned that no warning lights came on and wants the truck back to look into that issue.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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yep that is the fail safe cooling mode. turns the other cylinders into air pumps. works well.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Cool feature! Maybe they should have invested that money into finding a better bearing supplier for their waterpumps though. lol
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 12:24 AM
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well in all my time around the modular engines i would say the water pump is very rare to go out i have only seen one other one and this is the first i have heard of it on fte.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 02:16 AM
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I sold auto parts for a couple years and I sold 30 or 40 chevy 4.8/5.3 water pumps and 1 ford 4.6 water pump and maybe 5 or 6 dodge 318/360 water pumps.... I sold a lot of 7.3 water pumps though...
 
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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these are belt driven mechanical pumps correct?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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yep serpentine setup. 1 belt
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Matts72
I sold auto parts for a couple years and I sold 30 or 40 chevy 4.8/5.3 water pumps and 1 ford 4.6 water pump and maybe 5 or 6 dodge 318/360 water pumps.... I sold a lot of 7.3 water pumps though...
Hadn't thought of it, but I have most chevy water pump numbers still in my mind 12 years out, but not the Fords.
1573-1492 were the two most popular water pump numbers. Both fit small block chevys. Funny never thought about it.

Starters 3510 (small block Chevy out sold any other number five to one.)
Still remember most the Chevy numbers, few of the Ford.
Hmmm
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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That failsafe method is really cool. It will be interesting to see what happens when they perfect the technology to shut down cylinders at a cruise on the freeway. I would love to have something like that as a kit to add on. It would be so nice to kill half the cylinders on my Mustang GT when making the drive between Fargo and the Cities. Sorry to ***** out the thread.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Mine went out at 15k. Dealer found it leaking when doing oil change. Stayed almost 4 hours at the dealer. No problems since.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisAdams
Still remember most the Chevy numbers, few of the Ford.
Hmmm
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As far as gen-1 sbc's go, it's probably because of the huge following and aftermarket, perpetuated by price and availability. This was chevys breadwinner from 55-86. I've even seen it in Ford coupes, bikes, mustangs (blasphemy!), and other makes, jap trucks, and so on.

The ratio of sbc's to windsor sbfs (in use) is probably 10:1. Also keep in mind that a chebby water pump is $20 bucks, $12 for an oil pump. Dunno about the sbf prices.

I still find it sad that a vatozone worker doesn't know a sbc tstat gasket from a tampon, or what 350 stands for. Half of em don't even know what a tstat is.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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As far as gen-1 sbc's go, it's probably because of the huge following and aftermarket, perpetuated by price and availability. This was chevys breadwinner from 55-86. I've even seen it in Ford coupes, bikes, mustangs (blasphemy!), and other makes, jap trucks, and so on.

The ratio of sbc's to windsor sbfs (in use) is probably 10:1. Also keep in mind that a chebby water pump is $20 bucks, $12 for an oil pump. Dunno about the sbf prices.

I still find it sad that a vatozone worker doesn't know a sbc tstat gasket from a tampon, or what 350 stands for. Half of em don't even know what a tstat is.
Good point about the numbers of small blocks, but between the 265 to the 5.7 they used 40 or so different water pumps. And I still know most of their numbers.

Ford used far fewer water pumps between the 221-351W about a dozen. So even with the count difference, it's still an interesting thing.
Fuel pumps, the same thing.

On oil filters air filters, and plugs, the sales were much more even.

As to AZ employees, well, the corporation has given up on knowledge of cars and gone to number lookers.

Sad, but all the retail autoparts at this end of the country have de-emphasized technical knowledge.
Sorta like the pictures of the hamburgers at McDonalds so they don't have to learn to read the registers...
Oh well.
Chris
 
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seems like all fords used ot use the PH8A and chevy used the PH5 up until a few years ago. so it was easy to remember the numbers but i never did remember the import numbers it always seemed like that crowd and the volvo owners were to cheap to spend a dime on anything. not to be mean but that is just what i noticed. one guy came in and asked for a new oring for his oil filter because it was leaking when i told him to just buy a new oil filter he got very made and asked for my manager. he agreed with me then the man stormed out came back later and my friend sold him a 5.00 tube of rtv to slap on there which cost him 2.00 more than the filter.
 
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