Hi everyone, I need to know what components came with my truck for emissions control. The registration runs out in December for my 77 F-150. She's a 4x4 w/ a 400. From what I can remember at looking up my serial #, she was built in Canada, Im only 90% sure on that, but I definately can remember she wasn't built in California. The problem is I will need to get the I/M test in December, and the I/M dude said I will have big problems.

1. I have a Edelbrock 1406 - 600 cfm - 4barrel w/ matching intake manifold

2. No cat

3. No hot-air intake, open air-cleaner

4. No nothin, as far as emissions go. (except for a PCV valve)

The guy I bought this from said it would pass the emissions/inspection, but I bought it in Oregon and drove it to Alaska. The I/M dude says I will need to have a 2 barrel carb w/ hot air intake, a cat, somekind of air-valve, and probably a different manifold. Is this true? Did my truck really come with all of this? I thought it was a non-catalyst engine. Please tell me it aint so, otherwise I might have to sell my big orange baby....

Brad

 

Here, This is the look you're going for.


http://www.clubfte.com/users/mil1ion/351m400.jpg


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Thanks Dennis, that kinda helps, but not really. I'm trying to figure out what parts are missing from my vehicle...

 

Oh,I know that,I was just showing you what it will look like when you're done.

There is all the little valves and vacuum actuated thermo switches,
Vacuum lines,pump, plus the emission piping to exhaust manifold's,Air Cleaner assembly,Foil heat tubing,vacuum cannister,intake,carb.

You want an EGR system diagram?

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EGR? Im not sure what that is. Is there a site you know off that would have a detailed list of the emissions parts?

 

Yes, Right here.
I'm still waiting for a direct e-mail from you so I can send it to you.
It has to be a good e-mail addie for sending photo's though,not a ISP that doesn't allow Jpg's.

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The only way I think you are ever going to do this is get a complete motor or vehicle from the junkyard. I can't imagine trying to figure all of what you need, and then going and buying it new. It would cost a small fortune, if you could get the kid behind the counter to understand what you wanted. Look for an old LTD or something like that in someone's back yard that looks like it's complete, but maybe wore out that you could get cheap. I think a 351m would probably work too. Very carefully mark everything and swap it over. You will be replacing everything on top of the engine. And also, if you find a car, it may not be setup exactly like your truck would have been originally, but the system will include enough stuff(including the EGR) where it will certainly satisfy the emissions police. Keep it all intact and it should all work together.

 

I did exactly when Fanklin mentioned on my '79 300. It costs money and takes TIME to get the correct data, know how to read it, find the parts, and install. First of all, don't let one guy scare you. Second, check the valve covers for a (V)ehicle (E)mission (C)ode (I)dentification label. You need this & and a second, white label that has a bunch of letters and numbers on it - this will give you the calibration number. GIVEN THE VALVE COVERS ARE ORGINAL TO THE ENGINE / TRUCK: Look at the VECI label. If it mentions anything about California on it : you have a "California" truck. If does not say anything, it is a "Federal" truck. If it needs a CAT, it will say catalyst, if it needs an EGR, you need an EGR valve. If it doesn't mention these items - you shouldn't need them because they were never original equipment on the truck. My best suggestion is to search the junkyards or even an Auto Trader to find a similar truck. Engine weight dictates a lot of what you need. Mt second suggestion is to take the truck in and if you can, have a "pre-test" done. Some state inspection shopes do these. The tech will look over your truck and see what you need & (for the ~$30) he supposed to let you know what needs to be done / installed. The tough part is finding a shop that knows they're doing.

 

Do not take it to one of those places that only does inspections. They tend to be PITA's. Talk to other gearheads around and you can usually find someone who is willing to work with you. Of course, around here I am told that about 25% of the inspection stickers are fake.

 

This is a Calibration sticker.

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This is the engine emission label.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=5736&.jpg

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Thanks guys, but I think all that is too much work and more money than I want to spend. I am just going to sell my truck There is a town 40 minutes out of mine that doesn't require the I/M. So if I can't sell it in town, I'm sure I can sell it there. Thanks again for the help.

How much do you think I should ask for my truck? The body is straight, no oil leak/burn, she runs and drives good. She's got lots of tread left on her 33.5"s. I paid 3500 and put in another 1000, and I have a canopy for it (SB). ANy ideas? I would like to get about what I put into her.

 

Please get a second opinion from a mechanic on what you need before you decide to sell your truck. You may not need much at all. Sounds like you have a nice truck.