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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RedStroker6
hmm....camless is new to me....whats the deal with that? hows it work....
No camshaft, rocker arms, pushrods ect. The ones I have seen have a second high-pressure hydraulic pump and rails on them- with hydraulic pistons sitting over each valve, actuated electrically. Works much like the already-utilized HEUI fuel injectors, except pushing on the valve stem instead of an intensifier piston. I believe there is an all-electric, mechanical solenoid version out there too.
For the hydraulic-electric setup, valve duration and lift are both fully controllable during engine operation, by altering the high pressure system pressure and duration of electric pulse to the controlling valve (once again, just like HEUI injectors).

It'll be around in 5 years.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Ford better hurry up and get this engine going. The new Durasmack has 645ft lbs of torque matted to a 6 speed automatic. Im all ford but Im starting to see allot of GM's rolling around my area.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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I drove a brand new Chevy 2500 with a Duramax and Allison tranny a few months back. It had good power but the transmission shifted too hard for my taste. I'll take my old 7.3 + 6 speed over it any day.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Somebody mentioned something from the tonka on stops and start eK storing....I think you are talking about HLA? cound familiar? Hydraulic Launch Assistance...Stores E from braking and then lets it go under acceleration...anyways...smokestacks Almost certain on that one....Looks good....
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
No camshaft, rocker arms, pushrods ect. The ones I have seen have a second high-pressure hydraulic pump and rails on them- with hydraulic pistons sitting over each valve, actuated electrically. Works much like the already-utilized HEUI fuel injectors, except pushing on the valve stem instead of an intensifier piston. I believe there is an all-electric, mechanical solenoid version out there too.
For the hydraulic-electric setup, valve duration and lift are both fully controllable during engine operation, by altering the high pressure system pressure and duration of electric pulse to the controlling valve (once again, just like HEUI injectors).

It'll be around in 5 years.
so basically, less mechanical parts to break, but more electrical problems could arise....sounds interesting though. it would be cool to see a cutaway view of one when they come out with it (if they do). are they supposed to be mroe reliable, better fuel efficiency?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Sounds like limitless power too!
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Well if its not a superduty its not a truck. That leaves GM an Dodge out. The 6.4 will be interesting when it gets out. This power war is getting rediculous. Powers fine the way it is. Would you Ford guys go to a Duramax if it had more power. Not me. Wouldnt buy one whatever they had in there.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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how about better mileage?

Originally Posted by 150ford
Well if its not a superduty its not a truck. That leaves GM an Dodge out. The 6.4 will be interesting when it gets out. This power war is getting rediculous. Powers fine the way it is. Would you Ford guys go to a Duramax if it had more power. Not me. Wouldnt buy one whatever they had in there.
they've got a lot of power, how about better mileage?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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The extra cubic inches coupled with the 2 stage turbo system equates to 2 things in my mind, additional volume of air (leaner that lean burn) less dead pedal (no vanes to dictate spool up) more power from efficency, and extra cubic inches.


Simple answer, same as what we got now+ a better induction system and extra cubic inches= more power, reliably, better acceleration, better fuel mileage.

I'll go out on a limb here, " No chip necessarry"

Ryan
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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Any mods to a twin turbo powerstroke should be amazing.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by underp2
they've got a lot of power, how about better mileage?
I'd say right now the GM's do - can't speak for the updated power enhancements though that may effect it some. I'm anxisioulsy awaiting to see how this all plays out in the next 2 years.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by underp2
how about a 7-speed (auto or manual)? At some point one of the big three is going to have to 'one-up' the others. My bet would be on Ford.
That'd be great. I think it's only a matter of time before we see this. Choice between 6 speed auto (6r120??) and 7 speed manual?????????????
 
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mrxlh

I'll go out on a limb here, " No chip necessarry"

Ryan
That's what was said with the current line of diesel motors . I'll jump out on a limb and say the last 4 years of chip sales have been the highest ever - I really don't see that ending. People always want more power.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 02:56 AM
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Would 2 diesel motors be possible? One high torque, HP, cubes, and MPG be damned. The other designed to produce better MPG numbers. There is already the TT VT275 V6 from International being put in some Ford delivery trucks. I've heard that the VT275 might be available in the F-150.

BTW the twin turbo setup has been used by tractor pullers for some time. In fact twins were so good that some pullers now stack 3 turbos, awsome power (and smoke). For those wanting to know what these pulling motors with 2 or more turbos sound like, they are fairly quiet. There is a turbo whistle, and then there is a big sucking sound (of air and $$$).
 
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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