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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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I have an 85 F150, with a 5.0 liter efi. It starts and idles fine, it runs wide open fine. But when I'm in the mid range of the accelerator, it cuts out. The best way I can explain how it sounds is it sounds like a top fuel dragster idling. The truck has set up for about two years or so and I have replaced the fuel filter, the in tank fuel pump, the spark plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor button. I'm out of ideas. I'm thinking it may be the throttle position sensor but I don't know how to check it, and I imagine that is a pretty expensive part to just replace to see if it helps. Any info would be useful, thanks
 
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Get a code scanner at any parts store or a Wal-Mart for about $30 and run the scan and memory codes. You could spend a fortune just changing parts until you hit the right one.It could be a lot of things, especially on a motor that has been sitting a long time. Who knows what is sticking, the mice chewed the wires on etc. Run teh scan then let us know what it said.

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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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ok, thanks for the info
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Sounds like the midrange jet in the carb is blocked.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Engine is EFI, no carb. Try some Fuel Injector Cleaner in Gas Tank and give it a good steady run before you start removing and repairing. Might same some time or money. But I think your next step after injectors might be TPS or something with emissions; defective EGR, PCV, O2 Sensor possible. Any Codes stored; Check Engine Light on?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Update on 85 F150

I have yet to buy a code reader but I did take the throttle body off and cleaned it. I ohmed out the TPS and didn't find any spots in the potentiometer range where it was reading open or short so I assume it is good. While I had this off I looked into the fuel injection and it is filled with a black **** type of stuff that looks like it is coming from the egr valve, exhaust/carbon builup. I cleaned all I could thru that small opening and it ran fine for about 30 minutes. it started it again and I parked it.
I plan on taking the fuel injection off and cleaning it entirely. Also I am going to take off all of the emissions junk, ie. smog pump, egr valve, etc. I looked on my dash and I don't even have a check engine light. I do have a 'emissions' light. Any way, I'll post another update in about a week or so.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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last weekend on my 86 5.0efi i pulled off most of my fuel system parts and cleaned out, not to mention the throttle body, w/IAC, and upper intake... there was a lot of carbon/sludge build up... definitly worth doing.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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How did you clean yours out. I don't have a bucket big enough to submerge my upper intake in gas or something. I thought about taking it to a car wash and pressure washing the sludge out of it. Or I guess I could just buy 20 bucks worth of carb/fuel injector cleaner.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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TPS's are fairly cheap (20 to 30 dollars). You check them with an old analog mulimeter. Disconnect the TPS, put a probe end in each wire, set the meter to ohms (you will have to experiment, I don't remember the scale), then slowly work the throttle from idle to full. If there is any hitches, dead spots, etc, you need a new TPS. They usually wear out just off idle (where you operate most of the time), so if it idles and you stomp it, and it runs OK, then I would say TPS (i.e. if you run it slowly, it stumbles or dies).

Did that help? Mine seemed to wear out around 100,000 miles.

Kenny
 
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lugnut1009
How did you clean yours out. I don't have a bucket big enough to submerge my upper intake in gas or something. I thought about taking it to a car wash and pressure washing the sludge out of it. Or I guess I could just buy 20 bucks worth of carb/fuel injector cleaner.
I used a friends parts washer... but you could spray it out with throttlebody/intake cleaner, paint thinner or purple power.... don't have to submerge it... just get some some cheap wire brushes or scrappers. it takes a while, also it is a good time to paint it afterwards. mine was mostly sludged on the backside of the butterfly valve in the throttlebody, and on the two front top and bottom runners of the intake. i am guessing this was caused by the previous owner not changing the pcv filter in the airbox for about 100k miles. I am thinking about bypassing the valve cover to airbox hose with a breather, or installing a little catch can, in between.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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It Was The Tps!

Hey,
For those of you that were keeping track of my progress with my '85 F150, I got it running right! I cleaned out the upper intake and made a block plate for the EGR valve so it wouldn't put any more carbon buildup back into my intake. I also removed the smog pump and blocked off all the vacuum lines that were associated with it. You wouldn't beleive how much the smog pump had the engine bogged down! Anyway, that didn't do much for the original problem.
I had finally ran out of cheap-n-easy options so I went to my local Autozone [where they know me by name] and got a TPS. The lady told me that she would take it back if it wasn't it anyway. So, I got it home and had it replaced in about 15 minutes, and it only cost me $34. And it runs great!
Now if I can just get someone to sponsor me to fix the rest of the truck...
 

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