Notices
1999 - 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Real Truck

Towing an automatic long distances?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:00 PM
  #1  
bigsub's Avatar
bigsub
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Towing an automatic long distances?

Is it bad to tow an auto long distances by just putting it in neutral?
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:07 PM
  #2  
Beast12's Avatar
Beast12
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 14,413
Likes: 3
From: Sarnia, Ontario, CANADA!
It is not the best thing to do. If it is 4x4 and has a transfer case with a lever (not ESOF) you can put that in neutral and you will be fine.

If it is 2 wheel drive then I would highly recommend removing the driveshaft.

Good luck!

-Matt
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:14 PM
  #3  
Leader's Avatar
Leader
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
Yes it is VERY bad.
Get a trailer or disconnect the driveshaft..
If two wheel drive you can get by with a dolly.
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:31 PM
  #4  
bigredtruckmi's Avatar
bigredtruckmi
Lead Driver
Veteran: Navy
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,782
Likes: 221
From: Huntington Indiana
Club FTE Gold Member
Don't do it. Especially if 4X4. If 2X4 you can take drive shaft off. On my 04 it says not to tow right in the owners manual.
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 07:13 PM
  #5  
bigsub's Avatar
bigsub
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
Does anyone know the technical reasons? What does it do to the transmission? What if you leave the engine idling does that help the tranny oil itself? Just a thought.
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:42 PM
  #6  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by bigsub
Does anyone know the technical reasons? What does it do to the transmission? What if you leave the engine idling does that help the tranny oil itself? Just a thought.
If the tranny is good, and the fluid is good, there's no practical reason that you can't let the engine idle and then tow it. That wouldn't hurt it.

The problem is when the torque converter isn't turning, the oil isn't circulating in the transmission. That will certainly burn up an automatic very quick.

Even some manual transmissions have oil pumps in them, and if the engine isn't running, you better remove the drive shaft before towing it.

Either 4x4 (in 2-wheel drive) or 4x2, remove the rear driveshaft and you'll be fine. (if the driveshaft slides into the tranny/transfer-case, leave it in place or you'll leak out all the fluid and really mess up someone else's day).

When removing the driveshaft, index it (mark it), on both ends preferably, to make sure it lines up exactly like it did before removal.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:49 AM
  #7  
bigsub's Avatar
bigsub
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
So could I plumb in an electric pump to pump the fluid while towing?
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:16 AM
  #8  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by bigsub
So could I plumb in an electric pump to pump the fluid while towing?
That's ingenious, but, IMO, impractical.

First, how much pressure does an auto tranny produce? And how much pressure would you need to move the fluid through a pump that isn't moving? If it would even move through the pump?

Easiest thing, drop the driveshaft - in my Superduty, it's four bolts to disconnect the driveshaft from the rear-end. It's about the same complexity for most other vehicles. Lots easier than finding a high-pressure pump and plumbing it.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:22 AM
  #9  
IBeam's Avatar
IBeam
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
From: Utah
One quick note here, if you drop the drive shaft, do your self a favor and just take it loose from the axle, then leave the one end in the Trans/Trans Case, then secure it very good up under the body. If you pull the shaft all the way out, you leave a trail of oil every where you go. Not to mention what would happen if you are pulling it in dirt or rain.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:23 AM
  #10  
alchymist's Avatar
alchymist
"Mifflin Clay"
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,177
Likes: 4
From: Mifflin, PA
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by bigredtruckmi
Don't do it. Especially if 4X4. If 2X4 you can take drive shaft off. On my 04 it says not to tow right in the owners manual.
Unless I am dumber than I thought, the manual 4X4 transfer case can be shifted to neutral to allow the vehicle to be towed.......... (Course I could be dumb enough to not realize I am dumber than I think I am)
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:25 AM
  #11  
Leader's Avatar
Leader
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
True the pump would circulate the fluid but it also needs to be cooled.
What are you trying to do here, tow it behind a moterhome or just get it from point A to point B ?
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:31 AM
  #12  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by alchymist
Unless I am dumber than I thought, the manual 4X4 transfer case can be shifted to neutral to allow the vehicle to be towed.......... (Course I could be dumb enough to not realize I am dumber than I think I am)
You are absolutely correct. And even with an auto 4x4, with 4x4 OFF, you can disconnect the REAR driveshaft and everything would be fine.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:03 AM
  #13  
Casey's Avatar
Casey
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by bigsub
So could I plumb in an electric pump to pump the fluid while towing?
Yes you can. Remco makes a pump specifically for this. www.remcotowing.com
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:04 AM
  #14  
Leader's Avatar
Leader
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 898
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by krewat
You are absolutely correct. And even with an auto 4x4, with 4x4 OFF, you can disconnect the REAR driveshaft and everything would be fine.
Not so sure about that. Some transfer cases now need cooling just like transmitions. Better to check with the Mfg. before you do it.

As far as I know only some Jeeps can be towed with 4 wheels on the ground & automatics.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:34 AM
  #15  
krewat's Avatar
krewat
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 42,561
Likes: 423
From: Long Island USA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Leader
Not so sure about that. Some transfer cases now need cooling just like transmitions. Better to check with the Mfg. before you do it.

As far as I know only some Jeeps can be towed with 4 wheels on the ground & automatics.
If you disconnect the driveshaft from the rear differential, and the transfer case is in 4x2 (2-wheel drive) and the front hubs are not locked (or whatever it is up there on this vehicle we're talking about), the transfer case is NOT involved.

That Jeep you're talking about probably has a neutral in the transfer case, and yes, you can tow that.

ANY automatic should NOT be towed with the output shaft spinning and the engine NOT running.

That Remco pump sounds intriguing...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:50 AM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE