Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Fuel thieves!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 02:01 AM
  #16  
BigF350's Avatar
BigF350
FTE Leadership Emeritus
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 18,787
Likes: 30
From: Melbourne, Aus
FTE Emeritus
Originally Posted by dunbar15
I'm not a gear head, bear with me, I've always heard sugar will ruin a motor,
what does it do to it ??
As the article already posted states...
It doesn't do anything.

I have tried. I emptied a 2lb bag of sugar into a 1988 Mazda 323 with a half full tank (about US 5 gal).

Did nothing.
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:28 AM
  #17  
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead
Fleet Owner
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 25,090
Likes: 1,112
From: Rio Rico, AZ.
Originally Posted by BigF350
As the article already posted states...
It doesn't do anything.

I have tried. I emptied a 2lb bag of sugar into a 1988 Mazda 323 with a half full tank (about US 5 gal).

Did nothing.
Another myth busted.
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:53 AM
  #18  
Steve_250's Avatar
Steve_250
Posting Guru
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,949
Likes: 0
From: Near DC
Saw the sugar trick on Mythbusters, along with other additives.
They used an old gasser out of a Cadillac, poured everything into it.
Nothing stopped it, until they drained the oil....
They even thought it ran better with the sugar.
They didn't try diesel though.....
 
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:04 PM
  #19  
Hello's Avatar
Hello
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
From: Monterey Park, California
Burnt sugar is nothing but a lot of carbon. That will deposit on top of the pistons, form carbon ridges on the cylinder walls at TDC thus increasing the compression ratio. Because of the compression ratio increase you will need higher octane gas resulting in more hp.
I know sugar is water soluable. If it does dissolve a little in gas, this could take a while to happen. I can see it clogging up the fuel filter first.
 

Last edited by Hello; Sep 12, 2005 at 03:16 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2005 | 08:12 PM
  #20  
Franken-Truck's Avatar
Franken-Truck
Postmaster
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,587
Likes: 0
From: Virginia Beach
Want to ruin an engine? Dump 2 lbs of sugar down the intake, or in the crankcase Or plain ol' WATER! Will displace the gas, get pumped through the fuel system, might not ruin the engine, but will cost a pretty penny to have a shop clean it all up and repair anything
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 03:15 AM
  #21  
Zombie069's Avatar
Zombie069
New User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Franken-Truck
Thats what I have heard as well. . .but I thought you needed polar molecules to break down sugar granuals. . .so what cuases the actual gumming-up?

EDIT*

Never mind, it doesn't: http://www.snopes.com/autos/grace/sugar.asp

FWIW, sugar doesn't dissolve in gas
Kinda blows the snowmobile story outta the water.
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:02 AM
  #22  
Powerkleen's Avatar
Powerkleen
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
I have also been told that a tampon works wonders on gas tanks that pull from the bottom. Gets in there and expands to cover the hole, but moves around when the vehicle is rocked, so it gives an intermittent problem.

Not sure though.
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:28 AM
  #23  
barebackjake's Avatar
barebackjake
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,864
Likes: 0
From: STEPHENVILLE,TX!!!!!
i could belive the sugar making the snowmobiles cook a motor but on the fact that most snowmobiles are 2 strokes. the sugar clogged the fuel system making it run lean. what happens to a lean runnin 2 stroke???? holes burn in pistons......
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 04:54 PM
  #24  
magnum300's Avatar
magnum300
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
From: west MI
I think the sugar thing had to do with carburators
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:17 PM
  #25  
alchymist's Avatar
alchymist
"Mifflin Clay"
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,177
Likes: 4
From: Mifflin, PA
Club FTE Silver Member

Talking

Originally Posted by Franken-Truck
Thats what I have heard as well. . .but I thought you needed polar molecules to break down sugar granuals. . .so what cuases the actual gumming-up?

EDIT*

Never mind, it doesn't: http://www.snopes.com/autos/grace/sugar.asp

FWIW, sugar doesn't dissolve in gas
No, but it sure goes with the oil in a 2 stroke!
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:39 PM
  #26  
Stang5lgt's Avatar
Stang5lgt
Senior User
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Parker, CO
Has anyone ever heard of putting acetone in gas engine? I heard it makes MPG go up?
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:16 PM
  #27  
Franken-Truck's Avatar
Franken-Truck
Postmaster
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,587
Likes: 0
From: Virginia Beach
Stang, there are about 958 billion threads covering that topic in all forums on this site. You'll read that it does, that it doesn't, that its good and bad, it only works if the moon is inline with Jupiter, snake oil, etc. . . .Ok, maybe not that many, but a quick search in any forum should net you more "fact" and quackery than you'd ever wanted to know

Back to the topic on hand. Alchymist, so, if sugar does dissolve in 2 stroke oil, maybe make a sugar/oil solution then pour that into a gas tank? Think the oil will hold it in suspension?
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:54 PM
  #28  
alchymist's Avatar
alchymist
"Mifflin Clay"
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,177
Likes: 4
From: Mifflin, PA
Club FTE Silver Member

Don't know - all I know is that the gas/oil mix for the 2 cycle engines will carry enough sugar to the inner parts to cause damage. I think it may cause excess friction on the cyl walls or some such .........2 cycle engines depend on the oil in the gas mix to lubricate rings/valves, etc.
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:50 AM
  #29  
Todd525's Avatar
Todd525
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
Likes: 2
From: Ohio
Talking What???????

Rings and VALVES???? WHAT KIND OF TWO STROKE MOTR YOU BEEN WORKING ON????? VALVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:08 AM
  #30  
alchymist's Avatar
alchymist
"Mifflin Clay"
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,177
Likes: 4
From: Mifflin, PA
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by Todd525
Rings and VALVES???? WHAT KIND OF TWO STROKE MOTR YOU BEEN WORKING ON????? VALVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK, Strike the word valves, substitute ........
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:03 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE