Notices
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L) Diesel Topics Only

I need some advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 08:17 PM
  #1  
shore19's Avatar
shore19
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Tuckerton, NJ
I need some advice

I have a 1987 f250 6.9
I installed a rebuilt injector pump....the problem I'm having is there is no fuel comming out the lines, I have fuel going into the pump and fuel comming out the top of the pump(I guess the bypass) and nothing comming out the steel injector lines.
the wires are hooked up to the top of the pump and I do hear it click(and feel it) when the key is turned on. The lift pump is flowing good and plenty of pressure. The truck ran great at idle before I took the old one out.

my questions are should I tighten all injector lines but one or should they all be loose to bleed the system?

Is there a way I could prime the pump and the lines before I install it to save on the starter and batterys.

Or is it a faulty pump?
Thanks,
Jim
 
Reply
Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:00 PM
  #2  
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead
Fleet Owner
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 25,090
Likes: 1,112
From: Rio Rico, AZ.
Is there an electric fuel cutoff solinoid on these to stop the engine when you cut the power?
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 05:30 AM
  #3  
bilder12's Avatar
bilder12
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 0
From: Northeastern Pa - USA
are you sure you hear the injection pump turning off and on with the key or are you hearing the glow plug relay working? make sure the ignition fuse is ok. the injection pump has the off/on switch internally on the top part of the pump where the wires hook up to it. that has been known to go bad. OR the pump drive is broken and i have seen that too. and that would show up as no fuel flow to the cylinders. To remove the injection pump:
loosen all steel lines at injectors - remove 3 5/16 12 pt bolts inside the little front cover on oil fill - remove 3 9/16 nuts holding injection pump to tower and take the whole thing out (looks like a butterfly). that way you wont mess up the timing of the pump and it will go back together , in time.
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 10:54 AM
  #4  
shore19's Avatar
shore19
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Tuckerton, NJ
I can hear the glow plugs cycle, and if I take the wire off the top of the pump I can hear it click, and with my hand on the pump I can feel it.

I spoke to the people that I bought the pump from and I am going to try a few things they said, If it works out I will post the info to try to help someone eles if this happens to them.

worst case if it dosent work they said send it back, and they will ship another.
 
Reply
Old Sep 10, 2005 | 05:33 PM
  #5  
shore19's Avatar
shore19
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Tuckerton, NJ
up and running

Well it seems that I had a couple of things against me last night and all is fixed now.
when I was priming the fuel system the batteries went a little lower than I thought(it was cranking but not as fast and crisp) so I charged them up and with it cranking over I sprayed wd40 into the intate, got it running and the fuel started to come out the lines, tightened the lines and made an idle adjustment. It runs like it did 150,000 miles ago what a big differance.
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:07 PM
  #6  
rebelbrowser's Avatar
rebelbrowser
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
i have a 1985 6.9, been playing around with the air/fuel mixture screw.
my pump seems questionable to me as it has a stripped inspection plate screw indicating previous owner was also in an out alot. question is, with this mixture screw, where is a starting point ? i went clockwise until i had the smoke down. when i went counterclockwise to get back some of the power back and it dropped ALOT of power. SO i went back to lean and its power is so,so. my first diesel, i dont have the complete knowledge or equipt to do all the testing i read about, when you changed this pump, wasnt timing or air/fuel adjustments a problem ?
i am starting to believe the smoke i have coming out is really oil passing by the rings. its blueish and constant. i plan on doing a compression test and will change the oil more often because i believe oil quality could be a factor.
i'd still like to get to know the injector pump and tune it closer to perfect.
i also want to adjust for more top speed too so any clues as to where and what the govenor is and does would be good reading for me. thx, still looking at your gallories.
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:39 PM
  #7  
jboard's Avatar
jboard
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 712
Likes: 0
From: Marietta, OH/Weirton, WV
That screw u were messing with isnt an air/fuel mixture u need to do a search on fuel adjustment that adjust the amount of fuel your pump puts out that is what the screw does. U should never touch it without a pyrometer. because if u turn it up just a little too much u will melt your pistons. The injector pump is very delicate inside u shouldnt mess with the governor unless u are a trained diesel mechanic unless u plan on buying a new ip. If u are having blue smoke all the time u may want to advance the timing a little. Small adjustments until no blue smoke is visible.
Jeremy
 
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:41 PM
  #8  
shore19's Avatar
shore19
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
From: Tuckerton, NJ
hey rebelbrowser,
got your email and I will try to help you out as much as possible.

I have done lots of reading and I came across this web page that may help you as it did for me in trying to understand how things work.
since we live close we can compare engines side by side and swap ideas too.
here is the link for some good material
http://oilburners.net/brian/idi/Fuel...nServicing.htm
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 06:53 PM
  #9  
Chevy_Eater's Avatar
Chevy_Eater
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,221
Likes: 17
Originally Posted by shore19
hey rebelbrowser,
got your email and I will try to help you out as much as possible.

I have done lots of reading and I came across this web page that may help you as it did for me in trying to understand how things work.
since we live close we can compare engines side by side and swap ideas too.
here is the link for some good material
http://oilburners.net/brian/idi/FuelInjectionServicing.htm

Looks like a good site, thanks!
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:59 PM
  #10  
rebelbrowser's Avatar
rebelbrowser
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
awsome.... i will check it out soon.... thanks !
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hwy92truckn
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
6
Feb 8, 2014 11:21 PM
McQ
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
9
Jun 22, 2012 07:20 PM
Breaker Breaker 3-3
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
9
Mar 21, 2012 02:32 AM
doorstop
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Oct 25, 2010 11:16 AM
Gknight
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
9
Nov 22, 2009 06:50 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:27 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE