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Thanks, yea I figured out the newer engine cover has more of a curve in the front and the hump on the floor might be in the way. If I tried to use it I would have to really mod it to get it to work.
Now since you say it sucks, except the ashtray, guess I'll put up with mine longer until I get a new van with another console that sucks. Problem is I think it's gonna be a long time until mine bites the dust, I take very good care of it, unlike most contractors. I have a custom grill, oversized tires and wheels, custom built shelving, custom painted bumpers, a $500 ladder rack and a very nice one piece bulkhead. But I have a console that's just useless!!!! I wish I could figure out something not too involved for a different console.