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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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It's not uncommon to find Ford engines coupled to GM transmissions and all sorts of other odd things in an AMC product. They were a poor comany and used what they could get, or make work.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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I've been around MANY AMC vehicles, and have NEVER seen a Ford engine that came stock in an AMC vehicle. AMC had a 360 and a 390, but neither were Ford engines. They were of AMC's own design.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pfogle
It's not uncommon to find Ford engines coupled to GM transmissions and all sorts of other odd things in an AMC product. They were a poor comany and used what they could get, or make work.
Now, now, now...AMC may not have been the richest manufacturer in the world, but they always used their own engines. Automatics were either Borg-Warner or Chrysler, power steering and A/C came from GM, and other minor parts came from other companies, but no gas-powered AMC ever left the Kenosha plant with anything but an AMC engine.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Amen, brother. My Dad own's over a dozen AMC's including 2 Rambler classics, a '72 Javelin AMX, a '72 SST AMX clone, a '71 SST, 4 '71-74 parts javilins including one with a Pierre Cardan interior, a '73 and a '68 Javelin rolling chasses, and his High school car, a Glen Green 1970 Mark Donohue Javelin 390/T-10/3.91TG. And last but not least he is one of the few if not the only person in the country racing a Pro-Street '72 Javelin with an AMC motor on a 1/2 mile dirt oval with an AMC engine in, and it is more than competitive. It'll pull a BBC down the front stretch with the "small" 360-based 351 CI motor in. The "big" 401-based 358 incher we build is plain nasty, but we popped a head gasket.

Keep an eye on Circle Track mag, Dick Berggren may be doing a story on it...

And I agree, no ford motors came in AMC's...
 
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Out of ALL that you just listed, you know what REALLY caught my eye? PIERRE CARDIN INTERIOR!! I LOVE that! I've only ever seen one, and I thought that was just the prettiest car I'd ever seen. Well, right behind an Oleg Cassini Matador coupe...

Seriously, those are some AWESOME performance AMC cars your family has owned, and you should be proud of them. It always seemed to me that AMC's V8s always performed with the competitor's next larger motor. The 343/360 would out-perform the 400s, and the 401 easily kept pace with the 427s, 440s and 455s. But everyone still wanted Ford, GM or mopar when it came to muscle cars.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1956MarkII
Now, now, now...AMC may not have been the richest manufacturer in the world, but they always used their own engines. Automatics were either Borg-Warner or Chrysler, power steering and A/C came from GM, and other minor parts came from other companies, but no gas-powered AMC ever left the Kenosha plant with anything but an AMC engine.
False.

1984 - 1986 Jeep Cherokees were offered with 2.8l Chevy motor.(Also a Renault 2.1 Turbo Diesel
Prior to 1984 the CJ's used the Pontiac 2.5l Iron Duke.

But, then again Jeep was the Red-Headed stepchild of AMC, and these models were built in Toledo.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 01:37 AM
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Well my other love besides Ford is AMC, i posted a reply to this thread a few days ago, but it got ate somehow. Anyway, i'm a member of a very well known online AMC forum (i listed the URL to it in my last post, think it may have got deleted because of that) and i've owned three AMC's myself, and i'm only 17. So that means i've actually owned more AMC's than Ford Truck's.

Prior to 1984 the CJ's used the Pontiac 2.5l Iron Duke
AMC only used the 2.5l Iron Duke for a few years, when they began going under and had to start outsourcing.
1984 - 1986 Jeep Cherokees were offered with 2.8l Chevy motor
Never heard that one, but never were too in to the Cherokee's either.
It's not uncommon to find Ford engines coupled to GM transmissions and all sorts of other odd things in an AMC product. They were a poor comany and used what they could get, or make work.
Well that's just blatant BS. AMC had their own engine designs. Granted, they did use the GM TurboHydromatic tranny's. Not sure exactly on what years and models they used the TH but i know it was used in some Jeep's in the late 70's.

just my .2 worth
 
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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they also used a manual ford tranny in shortwheel base jeeps(cj-5,cj-7),can't remember which model tranny it was,but it made ford v-8 swaps fairly easy
 
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelbarry
Well my other love besides Ford is AMC, i posted a reply to this thread a few days ago, but it got ate somehow. Anyway, i'm a member of a very well known online AMC forum (i listed the URL to it in my last post, think it may have got deleted because of that) and i've owned three AMC's myself, and i'm only 17. So that means i've actually owned more AMC's than Ford Truck's.


AMC only used the 2.5l Iron Duke for a few years, when they began going under and had to start outsourcing.

Never heard that one, but never were too in to the Cherokee's either.
Well that's just blatant BS. AMC had their own engine designs. Granted, they did use the GM TurboHydromatic tranny's. Not sure exactly on what years and models they used the TH but i know it was used in some Jeep's in the late 70's.

just my .2 worth
Can you PM me that URL? I wanna see if it's the same one my Dad is on....THX
 
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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The years on the Iron Duke Usage were 80-84.

AMC wasn't 'going under' at the time of the Iron Duke being used in its power line-up. They didn't have a suitable motor to acheive the CAFE standards. The 4-cylinder motor that was in their line, directly dated back to WKO, and was a descendant of the L-head 'Go-devil' motor of the WWII era. The Pontiac motor was intended to be used until the AMC motor was ready to go.


Jeep did use the TH 400, and another variant of the same transmission THM 400.

The original usage was by Kiaser in the full size Wagoneers, behind the 327's and 350's. AMC later used the THM 400 behind its 301,304,401 c.i. motors in the Wagoneers, Full size Cherokees, and J-trucks.

The midsize Cherokee that had the Chevy motor, was coupled to a Chrysler automatic transmission Either a 904 or a 727 depending on option levels.
 
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