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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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It would be awesome competition to Hemi Chryslers (Magnum Charger, 300) and maube even Monte Carlo SS.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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That Ford Territory isn't too shabby either.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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What level emissions is the US on at the moment?
All these engines are Euro III compatible.
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Id like to see the AWD Ford Focus
As yet there hasn't been an AWD Focus - that might change though...
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If it was to come here it'd probably ge the 3.5l duartec, or the 4.2lv6 from the truck
I certainly hope not...
I would find it nothing short of sacreligious to fit anything other than a straight six or a V8 under the bonnet. The Falcon has been powered by either for over 40years here.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Euro III is actually a tad more stringent than current Federal regs. I think the Aussie engine choices are driven by the Rear-Wheel-Drive configuration of those models. We can dream, can't we?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Probably has more to do with our ridiculous and ever changing federal safety standards. The unions wouldn't like it either. But if GM can can do it and call a Holden a GTO, I don't see why Ford can't call that car a Torino. (Falcon was once an entry level economy car in the US).
It would be nice to see a variant of that straight six in an F-150 too.
That Falcon looks kinda like a Linciln LS. I wonder if there's any shared platform components?
 

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by polarbear
Euro III is actually a tad more stringent than current Federal regs.
That really surprises me. The US is usually the first country to up the requirements when it comes to emissions.

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Probably has more to do with our ridiculous and ever changing federal safety standards.
I know the main reason that it isn't available in the US is because it isn't currently available in RHD - watch this space for that though...
Currently it is 4star NCAP safety rated. Don't know if that would be accepted in your market, but the Pontiac GTO is also 4 star rated - the fuel tank would probably have to be moved though (as it did in the Pontiac) for the US's rear crash requirements.
Another reason you don't have this car available in the US is not many people within both Ford and GM globally are aware of thier little Aussie arm.
It was only when come the late nineties that the likes of Holden was making as much money as the rest of GM's automotive devisions combined, a few high up people within GM visited "down under" (most notabley Bob Lutz) wondering how such a small devision was making that amount of money, they came over and drove our products, and were suitably impressed.
Ford Australia hasn't been as financially successful as Holden recently (they still over a profit of around US$300million annually), so is even less noticed, despite the fact that thier product is superior (having won the Wheels Car Of The Year for both the latest incarnation of the Falcon and the Territory - Wheels pioneered such things as multi vehicle comparisons and "Car of the Year" type awards in the automotive journalism world.)
The unions wouldn't like it either.
No they wouldn't... But that I won't get into here.
But if GM can can do it and call a Holden a GTO, I don't see why Ford can't call that car a Torino. (Falcon was once an entry level economy car in the US).
It is an entry level large car here. It is used as a Taxi, Police car and by fleets. It just happens that this "entry level" car can handle as well as a BMW 3-series, is as comfortable as a E-Class Mercedes, and can out accelerate both (in 6 cylinder variants)
It would be nice to see a variant of that straight six in an F-150 too.
I think it would make a much better base engine than the current 4.2l V6 in my humble opinion - the inline six has similar low end torque characteristics to the old 4.9, but still has top end power as well.
That Falcon looks kinda like a Linciln LS. I wonder if there's any shared platform components?
No there isn't.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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There's another side to this too- the "not invented here" syndrome that sometimes plagues the industry. Never discount Corporate infighting or rivalry- it can cause some interesting decisions.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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Indeed it can. I know some people that were pivotal in getting the GTO to the US had big issues overcoming some peoples opinions.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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THAT is what Ford needs over here to compete w/ the Accord and Camry
My thoughts exactly! That is a damn good looking sedan! The 500 is way to bland the the tail lights SCREAM Taurus. This car is sharp! Power it however you like, the looks will sell it! Make it peppy and get good milage to boot and you have a winner!!!!
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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I don't know what's up with Ford. I have looked at those Falcon Utes on the web. I really like them and we could have our Rancheros back. I think Ford is missing out on the market here. I would go for a v8 Ranchero or an I6 for gas mileage. They could get those emissions up. They just rather sell v6's I rather have my inline 6. Most mechanics love working on an inline than trying to be a contortionist to change parts. Plus I find rear wheel drive has better control in icy road conditions. Weight ratio is better distribute on the vehicle.
Come on Ford wake up and bring the Falcon here and the utes too, just re badge them Ranchero they would sell.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Man those make me drool. That thing would boot a Dodge Charger's butt around the block a few times.
But Ford just introed the anemic Fusion here. Based on the "427" dream car. The bad part was, when the dream became reality, 1/2 the engine was missing
 
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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It'd sell if they could keep the price tag around $30ish- that seems to be the magic number.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Sweet looking family sedans. I wonder if they have the leg room for us 6 footers and taller. It looks sharp and would give a run to the competetors. I still love the Falcon version of the Ranchero. It has a nice sporty racing style. Like I said Ford is missing the boat on the Rancheros. True is the price tag. If they put them more than 30,000 you only get a smaller market share.
Come on Ford bring one here and let me test drive it for a year.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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maybe austrailia should export them here.
 
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