Well...tn mac...again, you misuse other peoples words and intentions.

well guys it must be great to have a truck that performs as it is supposed to,and I can see how it would be hard to believe that there could be a bunch of bad engines out there

No one said that. Most of us acknowledge the bad ones and you know that.

I GUESS ALL OF THE PEOPLE WITH UNRESOLVED PROBLEMS LIKE MYSELF SHOULD JUST SHUT UP GO AWAY AND LET THERE BE NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS SAID ABOUT THE 6.0

You guess wrong...No one said that either. All I ask and have asked of you specifically in the past and others in general is to quit condemning an entire product line because of your bad experiences.

Submit your issues and complain about your truck all you want but, quit telling me that mine is worthless.

It's presumable that if you know a couple dumb blondes then all blondes would be dumb... by your theory. Well OK...bad example but, you get my point.

Like it or not, you and your bad 6.0 are not in the majority.

It seems to me that your mission of late has been to do nothing less than demean the 6.0. By doing so, knowingly or not, you demean and dishonor those that have the good ones.

Again, moan all you want about your truck but, quit doing it on mine. (edited: BigF350)

 

You say that like its bad

 

Okay, there's a bright side too. Pure adrenaline takes away my worries and cares.

 

My runs great the only time it has been in to dealer at all was for the ball joints at 37k miles (it is a Super-Duty thing), and it had the ICP sensor replaced a few weeks ago at 60k miles.

I blew the rearend out at 48k but, it is the same rearend that is in all the single wheel F-250, F-350's. I have owned the truck Since Oct. 13, 2004 bought it with 27k on it. It now has 64k on it. 98% of those miles have been with the SCMT in hi-po mode. Including all the trailer towing I have done which ranges from 5,000-20,000 pounds.

Went on a trip last week with a 10,000 pound fifth wheel in tow Kansas City to Nashville and back and averaged 8-10 mpg with the trailer at 55-80mph.

BTW one would reckon there is more about mods in the 7.3 forum because they are trying to get them to keep up with a stock 6.0.

Also I want to add that I would glady own a 6.0 or 7.3.

 

What is with the head-butting week after week about whether the 6.0 is a bad engine? Seems no one can say the 6.0 is a bad engine around here because some people have good 6.0's. I guess both camps know a bunch of people with either good or bad engines. To me, a bad engine design is one with a high likelihood of having problems. If you randomly select a 6.0 engine (as you do when you buy a new truck) that 6.0 engine has a high likelihood of having problems (especially in 2003). Those with good engines can't discredit those with bad engines by repeating "there are a lot of good engines out there." If Ford mechanics are saying they've never seen as many problems with an engine as with the 6.0, I take that as a strong indication the 6.0 is a bad engine. That information coupled with my own bad 6.0 experience is enough to convince me. Further, I know a guy that works as an attorney representing at least one Ford dealer in at least one lawsuit regarding the 6.0. I have no idea what that lawsuit is about and I couldn't say even if I did, but this 6.0 is definitely shaping up to be a problem engine. The only way to settle the debate is to look across the entire fleet of 6.0's and determine statistically whether the 6.0 has an acceptable failure rate compared to similar engines.

Looking at 2 or 3 or 20 data points out of thousands to determine whether a design is good is ridiculous.

By the way, the Cummins is just ok. I like the performance of the 6.0 better, but don't trust its reliability so it is still for sale--everybody that looks at my 6.0 truck for sale asks whether I have had this problem or that problem--the word is out on these engines. They mainly ask about injectors. I guess I haven't had that problem yet.

 

Jason, the head butting comes from the condemnation of the entire 6.0 line. Not because anyone denies you guys are having problems.

I know of bad attorneys (even patent attorneys) as well, but, I don't tend to discriminate against all attorneys.

Those with good engines can't discredit those with bad engines by repeating "there are a lot of good engines out there."

Again, where does this come from? You guys keep hanging your hat on statements that, at the very least, imply that we do not recognize your issues. This is simply and purely...false and misleading.

Let me try this again...maybe it won't get edited this time.
Relieve your self and moan all you want about your truck but, quit relieving yourself on mine.

 

I think they can say that their 6.0 is a bad engine, but what KW was sayin is dont say that all of them are bad engines thats all. Because we all know thats far from the truth. Its cool if you wanna post about problems that yours is having thats what this forum is for, i believe people get mad when your cross that line and start speakin for other people. People that have good quality trucks want to post good things about theirs just as much as people with problem trucks post negative things. Its just when you start making a general assumption about the whole 6.0 line on either side thats when people will start jumpin.

 

KW, leave my profession out of it. I'm not sure what your implication is. Don't respond to my posts regarding engines by talking about bad patent attorneys--that definitely suggests a personal attack rather than a debate of the merits of the 6.0. Yet another example of a meathead post by you.

 

No personal attack intended Jason and I don't why you think it was.

It was merely an example of why something, as a whole, shouldn't be condemned because some of the parts are truly bad.

I am sure that you are quite successful at what you do.

As far as your personal attack referring to me as a meathead...well, I hope that was just a knee jerk reaction since you misinterpreted my intention.

I meant no personal offense. If you did, then I guess you just more clearly defined yourself.

Have a good day / weekend.

 

I see this thread coming to an end soon.

LOL

I know there are problamatic 6.0 out there I just don't know anybody that actually owns one. I do know several people that own 6.0 and like them just fine.

 

It won't... If everyone keeps the personal remarks out of it.

 

I have a 6.0L with issues and I know it will be fixed. It ran perfectly and strong for more that 30K. I have been dealing with issues since April and it has been nearly undrivable for about the last six weeks. The dealer has been excellent through all of this and has done so on just on my word. Only the last day that they had it did the diesel tech see what I was complaining about. They have done everything possible to help me and always provided me with a vehicle. I'm sure that they cringe when they see me in so frequently and who wouldn't. There has never been any animosity, talk about anyone’s ability (including mine), that my truck is a lemon, or that the 6.0 is problematic. Believe me, there has been plenty of opportunity for comments in all of the business and friendly conversations that we have had. This Monday they will start to resolve the surging issue. They already fixed the smoking, low power issue. They are paying for an F-150 from a rental company for me to drive as long as I need it, and have done so in the past when they don't have one. This is still the best truck that I ever owned and I love my 6.0L. This Monday, I will have 3 dozen donuts in tow.<O</O

 

Well go buy a chevy i have never had so many problems with a vehicle in my life !my 2004 6.0 is in rthe shop again 60 plus days out of service now in 16 months it stops for no reason this will be the 3 rd wiring harness the trans is now recalled its a piece of junk FORD SAYS THEY CANT FIX IT INTERMITTENT PROBLEM THEY GOT SMART WITH ME LIKE I KNOW SOME OF THE MEMMER HERE WILL FORD SAID SUE US IF YOU LIKE A HASSLE AND SMART AS PEOPLE IN THE EXECUTIVE AND DISTRICT SERVICE MANAGER BUY ONE THIS IS MY LAST FORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

KW
I THINK YOU MAY BE MISQUOTING ME, I dont recall coming out and saying in any post that all 6.0 are junk or even that mine is junk. ALTHOUGHT the posts I have made may have led you to believe that. I have made it plain that I believe the engine to be a problem and also that it was the fact that ford is pushing it past its designed limits and that came from my local navistar dealer who I do business with. also as many have said they new about omly good engine I have said on more then one post that I knew of several that like theres and get good mpgs, but I also know of at least 20 in the area I live in that were buybacks. I know of one lawncare company that had 4 new 6.0 f350 that were bought back because ford was unable to get them repaired, what I dont know is why it seems you guys in texas have much less trouble getting them fixed then lets say trucks in TN. But it seems to be the case in most of my posts I have always thought they were my opinion or a generalization as in most everyone posts and should be taken that way. pretty long winded, but to me its just a truck that was bought to do a job and it is not living up to fords advertizing and ford either wont or cant fix it. so should I buy two to have one dependable truck or should ford buy it back or fix it should I have to spend my time trying to get ford to do what there warranty says they will gladly do I dont think so. Having said all that I still think ford makes the best truck kust not the best diesel since the 7.3 is no more.

 

I really think this is going nowhere guys.
Unless there is anyone who has a good reason why this thread should continue, I shall lock it shortly...