trading for 6.0
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It goes in circles Matt, Shovel guys were saying the same thing about evo's, I used to laugh at them, now I am saying the same thing about twincams. (harelys) The criteria I use in recomending one over the other, is not that one is junk and the ohter is the bomb. But one is way more receptive to mods, (cheaper, easier, more available) and one is much stronger in stock trim (some of the really good aftermarket parts are in the works, but not available yet, tech's have very little training on them ect. ect.) Very similar to what we are seeing on the 6.0l equipped trucks. I do however agree that unless one can put up, they should shut up. The very argument that is based on one's 1 time experience, and not from a technically backed one, is not a relative argument at all. Or as Bob Dole once said "stop scaring everyone". 
Ryan
Ryan
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have a 6.0 and it is nothing but problems, im frustrated with it. our 7.3's are still running strong with NO problems. check the 7.3 forum, there are 70-80% less problem threads and more modding threads.
just my opinion, and like it goes- "opinons are like *******s, everyone has one"
just my opinion, and like it goes- "opinons are like *******s, everyone has one"
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strokin, your not alone two 7.3 never any problems the 6.0 nothing but. It is amazing to me how easliy someone can blow off your real world experience as just someone who is unhappy instead of the facts there are so many problem 6.0 engines out there that are not being fixed,weather its the dealer or ford the trucks have unresolved problems which is why the engine is being discontinued .
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TN Mac you have 1 6.0, Strokin you have 6.0, I have had the pleasure of owning an 03 6.0, and now an 05 6.0 I guess since I have owned 2 and both of you have owned 1 my experience would be twice either of your's. I do feel for both of you, one would think that Ford should have no problem standing behind a $40,000+ truck. You both got a bad truck, it happens, get over it. Life will go on, weather you choose to remain loyal to Ford, or this site, both will go on without you. It is a shame that no one could fix your trucks, but it does happen. By some of the attitudes both of you have displayed in the past on this forum, I might be inclined to wonder if either of you got black balled by the dealer(S) even if you had a legit warranty or driveability issue. ".IE all customer does is complain, nothing is ever good enough. Steer clear, he is not worth you time"
Believe me dealers talk to one another, as do the Tech's, and will do the above mentioned.
Ryan
Believe me dealers talk to one another, as do the Tech's, and will do the above mentioned.
Ryan
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Originally Posted by tn mac
strokin, your not alone two 7.3 never any problems the 6.0 nothing but. It is amazing to me how easliy someone can blow off your real world experience as just someone who is unhappy instead of the facts there are so many problem 6.0 engines out there that are not being fixed,weather its the dealer or ford
the trucks have unresolved problems which is why the engine is being discontinued .
It is quite a large generalisation, that from my understanding, doesn't have a whole lot of supporting evidence.
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No BigF350 they cannot support their claims. They can only support their own bad experience but they continue to hammer away at the 6.0 in general. At every opportunity.
Completely oblivious to anyones right to have a good one.
Quite frankly, I'm as tried of hearing about it as they are of their bad experiences.
In one breath tn mac has told us that his mechanical problems are resolved and his truck has never left him stranded and in the next breath his truck is junk.
His biggest complaint (very justifiable I might add) is MPG especially since he makes his living in the landscape business...I sympathise...greatly...but geez guys give it a rest.
It seems that many of us recognize the bad ones and do all we can to support those with problems only to have them later blast the the 6.0s in their entirety.
Completely oblivious to anyones right to have a good one.
Quite frankly, I'm as tried of hearing about it as they are of their bad experiences.
In one breath tn mac has told us that his mechanical problems are resolved and his truck has never left him stranded and in the next breath his truck is junk.
His biggest complaint (very justifiable I might add) is MPG especially since he makes his living in the landscape business...I sympathise...greatly...but geez guys give it a rest.
It seems that many of us recognize the bad ones and do all we can to support those with problems only to have them later blast the the 6.0s in their entirety.
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So far I am very happy with the truck. Towed my brother's car out of town (325 mile round trip) to go racing, and the truck averaged 13.5 mpg at 70-75 mph. Lots of hills around here. The old 460 was 11.5 on the highway empty. Tow/Haul mode seems like it could be a little scary in the winter (don't think I would use it).
Truck is going to the shop for an oil leak. They put some die in the oil before i bought it.
What is a CAC tube.
Truck is going to the shop for an oil leak. They put some die in the oil before i bought it.
What is a CAC tube.
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CAC = charge air cooler ( i think ) regardless its the intercooler tubes fromt he turbo. they can pop off, letting out a loud bang, and then sudden loss of power. usually under high boost/load, but not always. you will know if it happens.
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i dont worry about fuel mileage, hell its a $60K truck, its a diesel, so you cant be concerned with mileage. youre buying a $45 truck and then you complain about fuel mileage? come on folks. all i want from it is hauling ability/towing (and it sure does) and reliability (which it doesnt). i have been very patient with ford, they know i have a business to run and i need this truck. they have been very helpful, and i know its not the dealer's problem that the truck is a lemon. its FMC's problem. all i was trying to do is help the guy out who was undecided, because i personally think the 7.3 is more reliable. if you want all out sheer power/torque, get the 6.0. and that's what you did, so i wish you good luck with your truck!
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Strokin, just an observation. Do you think you might want to state a disclaimer on your signature indicating something like, "in my opinion" or something like that? Between your posts and signature, you appear to be engauged in a war or something.
I'm not trying to flame you or anything, just wondering how I should take your posts. They do seem awfully extreme and bitter, as if you are bound and determined to put a hammer down on the engine in my truck. Mine works really good and I am very happy with it, and yours seems to have been the opposite. I am tempted to get worried about my truck and run to the closest chevy dealer for a trade in but it's hard to take what you are saying seriously with all the emotion. (Not to mention I would have to change my username to olchevysndogpoop.
) I gotta know though, what is your motive?
I'm not trying to flame you or anything, just wondering how I should take your posts. They do seem awfully extreme and bitter, as if you are bound and determined to put a hammer down on the engine in my truck. Mine works really good and I am very happy with it, and yours seems to have been the opposite. I am tempted to get worried about my truck and run to the closest chevy dealer for a trade in but it's hard to take what you are saying seriously with all the emotion. (Not to mention I would have to change my username to olchevysndogpoop.
) I gotta know though, what is your motive?
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I suppose that is understandable. Be assured though that not all of 'em are bad. I'm sure (and have heard) that there were some of the 7.3's that had problems, and plenty of the other's in the big 3 as well. No doupt, I have heard alot of good stuff about those legendary 7.3 engines, after they worked out the bugs. Things were alot simpler back then. Now that the govt is forcing ridiculously complicated air pollution controls on, even the diesels, you have to expect some discomfort in adjusting. Diesel engines were an outstanding workhorse design, with simplicity. Now, it just aint so anymore. Pretty complicated aren't they?
My truck is performing very well so please understand my confusion when I hear of your extreme dis-satisfaction. Now if you want to talk about those *&%# Contitrac tires, well, that's a different story. Other than that though, we'll have to agree to disagree. Apparently, I am one of the lucky ones. Sorry your Dads luck wasn't so good.
My truck is performing very well so please understand my confusion when I hear of your extreme dis-satisfaction. Now if you want to talk about those *&%# Contitrac tires, well, that's a different story. Other than that though, we'll have to agree to disagree. Apparently, I am one of the lucky ones. Sorry your Dads luck wasn't so good.
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well guys it must be great to have a truck that performs as it is supposed to,and I can see how it would be hard to believe that there could be a bunch of bad engines out there. AND I have a great relationship with my dealer that I am using now they just have there hands tied by ford,they have replaced most of the sensors and severaL OTHER COMPONETS PER FORD BUT NOTHING HELPS. And the service writer I use off the record has told me they have had more trouble with the 6.0 then any engine he has seen in the 20 years he has been working for ford. ALSO I canot prove the engine is a bad engine but none of you can prove it good it really just comes down to your experiences and those you know. For instance I have a customer who is a car dealer new and used and he has asked me how I like my truck ,and I TOLD HIM ABOUT MY PROBLEMS AND HE TOLD ME THERE 6.0 BUYBACKS AT THE AUCTION EVERY WEEK. I GUESS ALL OF THE PEOPLE WITH UNRESOLVED PROBLEMS LIKE MYSELF SHOULD JUST SHUT UP GO AWAY AND LET THERE BE NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS SAID ABOUT THE 6.0