Have a bully dog power pup, and a edge juice stacked, but can not really feel a power gain with the edge stacked. Any advise, mabe a better stack. Could not find in a search.



power pup
edge juice
bully dog monitor (running at 100%)
4'' exghaust
mac air
35'' tires

 

I advise you not to stack devices like this, you're going to end up with too much timing and end up with rod knock. If you want to stack your best bet is to stack one of the above two devices with a custom programmed SCT Xcalibrator2: http://www.motorhaven.com/product.ph...cat=274&page=1

By the way, those aren't chips you have, they are fueling boxes.

 

If these are only fuel boxes, then why do you say that it may raise my timing to much. I thought that they rasied fuel, timing, and turbo psi?

 

They commonly called "fueling boxes". They change fuel injection timing and the amount of fuel. Nothing directly raises turbo PSI, that's a buy product of combusion, indirectly modified. Fueling boxes don't do any reprogramming of the computer, or the tranny.

 

Then how do they change the tranny shifting ( is it line psi) Is there any product out there to up turbo psi, this is a 6.0L. I'm only getting about 30 psi.

 

Those (fueling box) products do not change the tranny shifting. Too much power and the shifting gets erractic. 30psi is good. I don't recommend taking the 6.0L's too high unless you're willing to take care of the head gaskets.

 

I drove a 04 F-350 DRW, that had an Edge box, and a Superchip stacked. I have never driven anything that ran like that. It was unreal. It would spin the tires until you get out of it I guess. It seemed as if there was no end to the spinning. Like I said, unreal!!!
Now that truck is in the shop with a blown engine, imagine that. Needless to say, it is not covered under the factory warranty.

 

It will smoke the tire with out a stack. I was wanting to build more turbo boast, with more mid range power.

 

You need to get an SCT custom program, and get rid of the other two.

 

Keep the Edge for the defueling capabilities and stack it with a custom SCT tune made specifically for this type of thing. Don't stack a tuner that's not designed for stacking, you'll get too much timing and some rod knock.

 

why do you recomend sct. what is the facts on why its better, not just this is what I run so its got to be the best. I already have defuel capability. (outlook monitor) wow at egts at wot.

 

I recommend any tuner over the Edge or any other fueling box because fueling boxes don't do anything for the transmission. There are numerous people who have ruined their trannies on high settings of fueling boxes, including people on these forums. If you want the switchability of a fueling box you need an SCT to tune the tranny. Right now the SCT is the only programmer that allows tranny stack tunes.

Stacking any other tuner with a fueling box is going to eventually cause problems in the long term if you run it in the high setting. A very good customer of mine (David B, of Loganville) was over today and I'm making some stack tunes for a Edge/SCT combination for his friend. He was telling me about a landscaping customer of his who was running a fuel box/SCMT tuner combination and loved it... until he had to spend $15K to have the engine taken out and replaced.

So the question is: are you willing to play guessing games by stacking a device with a non-stacking tuner and getting fuel timing that is incorrect and put the rods at risk... or do you want to do it correctly?

 

Well Im not so set on a stack. Which I'm not running any more. Just the bully dog pwer hound tunner. Which is supposed to tune the tranny. My only task is to build more boast without replacement of a new turbo. I'm sure there is a way to get more than 30 psi out of these turbos. I would like to be about 34-36 psi.

 

so the best thing to do if i have and edge juice/attitude is to stack with an sct?

on level 5 very weird things happen to the tranny

how does the sct work? what will it do when stacked? does that stand for superchips custom tune?

whats the difference between scmt and sct?
how do you custom tune my truck with all of the flashes that are out there?

sorry for all the questions but i finally found a forum that i could ask all the questions floating around my head
i really want to maximize the performane of my truck w/o blowing the tranny up
thanks jason
what will the sct do for my tranny? is it a tranny tune only?

 

I would personally suggest you not even worry about stacking the edge with the sct. You can get custom tuning on the sct that will do exactly what the edge is, and have much better control over the tranny. Just my 02's