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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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hello everyone, i have been reading this forum for 2 years and finally had to join because i found my dream truck. i just bought a 2000 F-250 with a V10 with a 5 speed stick and 4 wheel drive. it is a regular cab so its pretty light. i am super happy with it after 3 weeks. my first question would be has anyone experienced a real notchiness with the shifter going into reverse or 2nd gear from a standstill? i have been driving stickshifts for 20 years now, but this one can be a bear sometimes. any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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HOWDY! Cant answer the shifter question, but welcome to the 6.8 family.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Can't help you on the tranny, nothing but autos here, but WELCOME!!!!!!!
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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thanks guys. its fine when i am still rolling and put it in 2nd at a stoplight, just when i am completely stopped. i know what everyone means by the BSEG though. the 3rd gear pull in this thing is an eye opener to say the least.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Hi 10strokin and welcome to the V10 owners club. The last stick I had in a truck was in my 1975 F250 I bought new when I was 25 years old. Someone else will help you with your shifting question and I hope your V10 Ford is a real winner for you. Take care.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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thanks wrench.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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10strokin - I have not driven a standard shift SD, but with some of my standard shift cars that I use to race it sounds like the sycros might be going bad in the tranny. Reverse normally has either no sycros or very weak ones. The 1-2 shift is the most often used and therefore the first to go in forward gears. Sometimes you can prolong the rebuild by changing your trans fluid and using full synthetic oil as it will allow the sycros to mess easier. The other things you can try is letting the truck roll a little if you are on a hill or engage another gear first and then go into reverse or second. The problem is the cogs are not lining up in the trans for you like they should. Good luck to you and welcome!!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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10strokin - I have not driven a standard shift SD, but with some of my standard shift cars that I use to race it sounds like the sycros might be going bad in the tranny. Reverse normally has either no sycros or very weak ones. The 1-2 shift is the most often used and therefore the first to go in forward gears. Sometimes you can prolong the rebuild by changing your trans fluid and using full synthetic oil as it will allow the sycros to mess easier. The other things you can try is letting the truck roll a little if you are on a hill or engage another gear first and then go into reverse or second. The problem is the cogs are not lining up in the trans for you like they should. Good luck to you and welcome!!
Synchro's, my guess also, especially second gear, if you're going to nail a power shift, the first to second is the easiest and most popular. Matching engine rpm to transmission speed will help, so will a first to nuetral with the clutch out for a sec and then to second shift. Synchro's are nothing but rings with pointed teeth on them ahead of the actual gear. As you pull into a gear the pressure from the sliding collar starts the gear spinning the same speed as the previous gear so the gears won't grind. The pointed ends get worn down and won't engage as fast so there's more effort to get the gears to engage.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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10strokin-I have the same configuration as you do only with the supercab, and occaisionally my 5sp does the same thing, not to often though, I figured the synchro's, but I am not worried at all but I will eventually rebuild the tranny though.

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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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thanks everyone. i dont want anyone to get the wrong impression, it is not a problem, i just wondered if anyone else had experienced this. i dont use first gear ever because its granny low. i start in second, but if i'm not rolling a little, its harder to put in 2nd to start, thats all. reverse is easier to diagnose. the shifter goes beyond where reverse is so i have to come back towards me to find it. i am very happy with this truck overall. my last 3 new trucks, rangers and 150's, i felt like i had to settle for them because of finances. i'm sure everyone in here knows about that. now i have the truck i have always wanted, and a bunch of good guys in this forum to keep me straight on it. THANKS!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 10strokin
reverse is easier to diagnose. the shifter goes beyond where reverse is so i have to come back towards me to find it.
There might be an adjustment to your shift gate that will fix that, but I don't know for sure. As for your second gear engagement from a stop try the trick I mentioned before of engaging another gear first. That may line things up for you and make engaging second smoother for you. Enjoy the truck!!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Before everyone starts saying "syncro's"... there's one thing that will seem to be worn syncros, but isn't.

The clutch might not be fully disengaging, so that the input shaft is turning with the motor when you have the clutch depressed and the tranny in neutral. That'll make an un-syncro'd reverse very "grindy" too...

If you push in the clutch, wait a few seconds and try to go into reverse, and it still grinds, the clutch isn't fully disengaging. Not sure if the clutch is hydraulic, cable or whatever, but if it's hydraulic, it could need a rebuilt master/slave pair. Or cable stretched, or lever adjustment, whatever.

ALSO one other thing to think about. Syncros will not "lockup" nicely with a gear oil that's too THICK. Maybe the wrong viscosity oil was put in the tranny, and you need to swap out to the stock stuff. DId that using 90w gear oil in a Triumph TR7 tranny. It was spec'd at 90W, but 50W was better, and some people even used ATF.

Funny thing, some people who tried synthetics in trannies that weren't meant for it, had many problems with the syncros not doing their job. It seems the "shear" I think it is was too "good" with the synth and the syncro couldn't bust past the surface tension to lockup to the gear
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Oh, and I do recall some people having the same problem you are, but I think that was the 6-speed... might do a search.
 
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