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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Thanks Flash. For further info, the founder of the Oil Guy site, who was a big proponent of and a sales rep of Schaeffers, said (a couple years ago)"

"Schaeffers fuel additives are actually used as part of the blenders fuel additive package in the case of certain fuel companies. All fuels come with some additives already designed into the fuel and Schaeffers just happens to be one of the providers for such. "
 
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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i used HEET in my front tank to remove a bunch of water, it worked, after about 4 days the tank was completely clean
 
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:17 AM
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With today's gasoline detergents, the worst offenders for FI deposists is those people who idle their modern engines for warm up. Or in the summer time, the car idles needlessly with the AC on. Even in frigid winter temps, 45 seconds to 1 minute is plenty of time to idle before putting it in gear. In fact, an engine will warm up much more efficienctly, in gear and driven at 25 mph. I do like to use a dry gas, additive such as HEET. once a month. You never know when their might be condensation or moisture in your tank, although plastic gas tanks are less likely to have moisture in it, than the old steel or galvenized gas tanks of yesteryear. ED
 
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Well, I can see warming up a car, when your butt freezes to the to the drivers seat, and your hands stick to the steering wheel. Just not that pleasant. I'm guilty of it when it's that cold. I will agree though, it probably results in more deposits, and driving it will warm it up much faster. I'd say, that if the oil pump bypass isn't buzzing, you're probably good to go. Just keep the rpm's down until it warms up.

As far as fuel system cleaners, I've always run the standard ethanol blend, and it seems to be keeping the fuel system clean.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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Last time I used a fuel injector cleaner, my mileage got worse. I dont know why.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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two different retail mixes by Chevron of Techron FI cleaner, the cheap standard and their Concentrated.
Toyota 4 cyl FI engines in the mid 90's had a high incidence of FI failure from deposits, the granny luggers with auto tranny's, never pushed the rpm up about 2k, usually just after end of warranty. At $200 per hole replacement with new Toyota FI, an expensive "repair" by Toyota dealers.
Techron Concentrate would prevent. Toyota rewrote ECU firmware for shift points, pushed up to 3k+
Also Chevron Premium 93 octane has much higher Techron load than lower grades.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 96_4wdr
....Also Chevron Premium 93 octane has much higher Techron load than lower grades.
What proof do you have of this?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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TP, always a pleasure to hear from you. The MSDS is far too general to make any determination but I would assume that it uses a naptha of sorts as the base or carrier fluid. It wouldn't surprize me that they also are using a little ester in their formulation. Fuel stabilizers work by causing a film over the top of the fuel which keeps the fuel from gassing in the presence of air/oxygen. I would suspect the naptha compounds because of the alcohol. Naptha agents burn HOT and the alcohol would lower the burning temp.
I just ran across this statement in an old thread: "Neutra is an ester of butanol and cresylic acid in a light base oil."
 
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