Alright guys, The 07' Super Duty is almost here already (cann't beleive I'll have to trade already, lol) anyway with a new and improved and completely revised Super Duty I think we should get a new and improved V10 (yes, I know its almost perfect but theres always room for improvement) I mean I want something that all men, women, and children will fear, but at the same time something they can't resist. Something that can be looked upon as the Ultimate Engine to have. what needs to be done to turn this thing into the moster that it could be, and I don't want any sisy "we need it to make 30mpg comments" if I could have 550hp and 700ftlbs I wouldn't care if I was getting 6mpg.

I'll start the requests with the following.

bore it out to about 7.2L
put in variable cam timing, DOHCs and 4 Valves per cylinder, heck with VVT we might as well have a wild lift from about 3/4 to WOT.
add slightly more pressure to the injectors and fuel rail for better atomization of the fuel, maybe even a step up on the injector size.
shoot for a compresion of about 10.4:1 (if I can still run on 87) or better yet lets jump start the use of E85 and get the compresion up to about 13:1 where it should be for a fuel with an octane the same a alcohol.
lets open up the exhaust a little bit, maybe a full 3.5" pipe from less restrictive exhaust manifolds. dump this through a slightly crisper torque shift (nothing wrong with the current version but I don't want any slipping with this much power) and dump it out the rear with the 4.30s and an air locker

boy it's fun to dream.
lets top this baby off with an Eaton supercharger running a reliable 5-6lbs of boost.

 

the 6.8 had the same EXACT motor specs as the 4.6 GT Mustang motor, we'd have 443 hp. If we had the same specs as the S/C SVT mustang motor we'd have 576 hp. If we had the same internals/spec as the Ford GT supercharged motor we'd have 692 hp. Wanna dream ? Start here, because this is ALREADY reality in the Ford camp, sucks huh ?

 

Did you really have to rain on my parade!!, J/K, a 692hp V10 would be aaawssooome!!

 

Sorry, no foul intended. I have ranted about this before, the V10 is So much more capable of more. Ken

 

fords got a few very hot 10's floating around in testing.
a super charged 4 valve dohc with vvt would be very nice

 

I read a topic over at BON that said one of the manufacturers (no idea which one) would release a 600HP truck on the market in the near future. Of course, being a Ford site, a lot of speculation was that it's a beefed-up V10 in a Super Duty.

I'd settle for 500HP w/ 1,000 ft-lbs of torque myself.

 

Easy,add two more cylinders.

 

I good on horsepower...I could use a couple more miles per gallon though.

 

roommer mill, dcx v12 from from benz that they have had for 13 years. and my gm rep a 10 or 12 very shortly.
even the viper motor is doomed

 

I kinda like the sound of - 8.1L V12 - Although It reminds me of the 8.something dodge V10s and of course chevys big block so how about we bore that out so we can have maybe a 9.0L V12, now that sounds unique! or better yet a Supercharged DOHC 9.0L V12, now were talkin.

 

I'd like to see them scrap that "fly by the wire" and go back to a simple throttle cable. Give me back my positive, direct connection right foot to motor response control.

 

that was the current V12 Mercedes Benz motor in the ME12 concept car 2 years ago. Personally I thought it was ugly. The front end of a Crossfire and the rear end of a train wreck. Chrysler was almost begging folks to buy it since most all the parts were off the shelf Neon pieces. But at $200K+ there were not many takers. How much prestige is there in a car like that ? "Hey baby, wanna come over and see my Chrysler?" There are way too many cars in that segment now, Porsche, Aston Martin, BMW, Maserati to name a few.

A small bore/long stroke is much easier to fill with air/fuel which makes it easier to control emissions so adding cylinders is the easiest way to provide hp/torque. There is loss from friction with less bore/more stroke. But the volumetric efficiency overcomes that.

With GM's Vortec series you can order a modular 4, 5 or 6 cylinder in a couple trucks so making the leap to a V configuration is a no brainer. A 12 cylinder in the Escalade has been talked about for a couple years as the halo vehicle in large SUVs. Cadillac did a 16 cylinder a few years ago to gauge public interest in 10 and 12 cylinder engines.

Multi cylinder, small bore motors are the future. There is no way around it, they're too efficient, too easy to produce and finally gaining the acceptance of the US buying public to go away. Enzo Ferrari was onto something 6 decades ago. Can you imagine the piston size in a 2.5 liter V-12 ? "hey Guido, I gotta hone this cylinder, wrap some sandpaper around my finger will ya?"

 

My thoughts:
Add a 100hp electric motor and go hybrid V-10 (then you'll have the 500hp V-10 without doing anything!).
Just think of the tree hugger at the gas station filling up his prius/etc. giving your V-10 an evil eye when you step aside to reveal the "Hybrid" badge. Besides getting better mileage you would get tons of torque from the elect..

Most of the new hybrids these days are just electric motors added to current V6 engines (Accord, 400h, etc.) so they really are going for more power not really economy! So why not do it with the Superduty so Ford could claim the first full-hybrid pickup truck...?

Another thought: This would bring HP and Tq specs close to, or above the Diesel option (probably for about the same price). Thus you'd have same or better specs, less fumes, and less noise (or no noise in some circumstances)!!

 

GM had it first, and it bombed. Ford has worked on a hydraulic start assist system, but that's not hybrid. I wonder how durable an electric motor addition would be. And the battery pack, oh baby, to power a motor big enough to get 18,000 pounds of truck and trailer ? Yowzers, you'd have to have an auxiliary V10 to help move the batteries,,,, but it would be something I'd like to see. But I'd prefer the Prius owner seeing my V10/Hybrid badges while I was parked on top of their Prius.

 

GM's was not a true full hybrid: The gas engine always ran, and the electric assist was worthless. The only thing it was good for was the 110V outlets!