View Poll Results: choose the diesel that you like to see in a ford
Nav. V8
14
13.21%
Nav I-6
7
6.60%
Cummins V8
6
5.66%
Cummins I-6
26
24.53%
Cat V8
17
16.04%
Cat I-6
27
25.47%
Other
9
8.49%
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Diesel poll
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This is probably obvious to the diesel guru's out there (you know who you are!), but why doesn't Ford just build their own diesel? Do like they did with the Modular motors, only in a diesel. You could have 4, 6, or 8 cylinder engines based on the same design.
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It's back to the 70's since Ford tried to build their own diesel, and they failed back then, as it was in the heavies, and customers wouldn't buy the Ford diesels, but would buy the trucks with other companies diesels in them. Also, if you notice the trend, GM and Dodge aren't building their own either, they went to companies that have an established reputation for building reliable diesels. GM tried for quite a while, but it just didn't perform well enough to satisfy the buyers for long. Isuzu, Cummins and IH all build reliable and reputable motors and have the R&D already done, and are well ahead of anyone trying to get back into the game.
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Originally Posted by MustangGT221
This poll is in not a very accurate reading of what the consumer actually wants. Ford builds what the consumer as a whole wishes...or atleast as close to that as possible.
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That maybe true?
Accept for one person and he is looking, everyone of us that voted own a ford truck.
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MAYBE A DURAMAX, OR A 6.2L OR 6.5L DETROIT, OR MAYBE A GAS CONVERTED TO DIESEL! well, what do you know, that covers every diesel chevy offered...
HUH? you mean we're not supposed to list the diesels we WOULDN'T like to see in a Ford? list the ones we want to see? well in that case...
a V8 would fit my used better than an inline 6 would. i like the better accelaration, the sound(both engine and exhaust, although i do like the way the I-6's sound, just not quite as well.), and the overall feel of the engine. i'd like to see ford keep the V8 PowerStroke. but i would like to see what cat or cummins could do with a V8 engine. that would be pretty interesting.
HUH? you mean we're not supposed to list the diesels we WOULDN'T like to see in a Ford? list the ones we want to see? well in that case...
a V8 would fit my used better than an inline 6 would. i like the better accelaration, the sound(both engine and exhaust, although i do like the way the I-6's sound, just not quite as well.), and the overall feel of the engine. i'd like to see ford keep the V8 PowerStroke. but i would like to see what cat or cummins could do with a V8 engine. that would be pretty interesting.
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I may be wrong but it seems to me that Cummins got it's reputation from the 855 series of engines. In heavy duty applications they were hard to beat. I have seen many of them run for up to 7-8 hundred thousand miles with no major repairs. Big drawback is their size and weight, don't think they would be practicle in a pick-up.
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As I recall the Detroit Diesel lineup the 12V-71 is a single block with 6-71 cylinder heads on each bank. The 12v-149 was 2 V6 blocks bolted together NOSE-TO-NOSE! Now my memeory is old, as for the 92 series I think they went with two blocks also. I don't ever think there was an inline 6 for the 92. I could be wrong. Anyway, all those engines are HEAVY - very heavy. Like I said the Dodge boys are suffering with weight on the front axle using a Cummins. Navistar seems to look at weight more seriously.
I think many people were dissappointed with the power stroke and the HEUI ecectronic fuel injection system. Maybe thats why they vote for an I6. But many people don't know that when cummins brought out the 4 valve per cylinder engine it was noiser, lest fuel economy, and most of the injection pumps failed.
I think many people were dissappointed with the power stroke and the HEUI ecectronic fuel injection system. Maybe thats why they vote for an I6. But many people don't know that when cummins brought out the 4 valve per cylinder engine it was noiser, lest fuel economy, and most of the injection pumps failed.
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I think it would be neat if Ford gave us the option of different engines. Like the F650 and F750 engine choices. Then we could choose between the current 6.0 PSD, 5.9 Cummins, or the Cat diesel. It would be interesting to see how many trucks that would be built with the other two engines. I like the 6.0 in my new truck, but I would be against having a 5.9 under the hood.
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