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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Question Help on more pulling power

I have a 2001 F-250 4door short bed V10 and am going to buy a 37 foot fifth wheel. I'm needing help finding the best headers. I am also going change the intake, gears and possibly but a shift kit in the trany. Any takers on helping me find out the best products for the job? One more thing, what is the best performance chip out there for the engine?

Earl
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Check out the Banks PowerPack from Banks Performance.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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you may want to post down in the "V10" forum (under "performance, engines and trouble shooting" section) those guys can help you get all the power you can from your truck. i know there are people here than can help but you might get more responces down there.

welcome to FTE.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Don't use a shift kit over the years I have tryed them each time I burned up the trany I will never put anouther shift kit in again, Unless it for a race car.

If you get a 4X4 shift kit are very hard on you transfer case.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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i have a V10 w/ toyhauler and its a dog.. i regeared, chipped, intake, and shift kit... it helped ALLOT... i still get passed by diesels going up any type of grade.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Earl you have a lot working against your idea to get a 37 foot long 5th wheel trailer

37 feet trailers have a LOT of space inside for the "family" to outfit and store stuff. They also have huge holding tanks. In the end you end up with an extremely heavy trailer that will exceed your max GCVW of the 01 F250 that I bet has 3.73:1 rear gears.

You will NOT be happy and the fact that you have a short bed makes it worse because it is very difficult to get the rig turned very sharply with out smashing in the cabin.

I highly recommend you look at bumper drag trailers in the under 32 foot region.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by schaad25
I have a 2001 F-250 4door short bed V10 and am going to buy a 37 foot fifth wheel. I'm needing help finding the best headers. I am also going change the intake, gears and possibly but a shift kit in the trany. Any takers on helping me find out the best products for the job? One more thing, what is the best performance chip out there for the engine?

Earl
You didn't give use a lot of information on your truck or trailer so not knowing gearing tire size and trailer weight its had to say what you need, so I will tell you what I use to pull a 37 ft trailer.

2000 V10 DRW 4.30 gears 4X2 SC LB 215/85 tires Banks cat back exhaust Air Lift Bags, My trailer when loaded and ready for the road runs right around 15K, it also puts 3K on the pin and that with my aux tank the truck weighs 10360. It handles the load fine the way its set up.

Your truck only being a F250 SB my best guess would be that it has 3.73 gears and like a lot of the SB trucks it may not have the overloads on the rear springs or the larger anti sway bars front and rear that the F350 have.(yes there is more than a Badge change between a F250 and F350) For that kind of a load its the wrong truck, remember its not just the static load its also the load that gets put on your truck when you hit a dip and drive the back of the truck down.

I don't want to rain of your parade but form many years and miles of pulling big 5vers the least I would want is a DRW and 4.30 gears to handle a trailer that big, I installed the Banks to boost low end and high altitude pulling power, I don't like performance chips because they put to much strain on the running gear, I don't think that headers will give you any gain low end performance and from what I have read they actually do the opposite. IMO if you are going to get that big of a trailer look for a different truck.

By the way welcome to FTE

Denny

Also I spare no expense on trailer braking, I ordered my trailer with Heavy Duty brakes and I use a BrakeSmart controller, remember its easy to get it moving but at some point you have to stop it!!!!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jetjock16
i have a V10 w/ toyhauler and its a dog.. i regeared, chipped, intake, and shift kit... it helped ALLOT... i still get passed by diesels going up any type of grade.
Give it a break dude, your truck comes nowhere near representing the V10 as a pulling rig. Those very real 37's and that 8" lift hurt a whole lot more than any percieved gains of those other mods may help. And you certainly are on a different planet with respect to a stock 2005-06 3 valve V10 as far as pulling preformance goes.

I've heard you more than once advocate the diesel, and while I like the
6.0 as well, your simply being totally unrealistic and blatantly unfair.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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Sinister is right get rid off the lift an tires youll be able to pull anything. Be realistic man. It takes a lot to move your truck without pulling anything.Schaad If you want to pull that regear your rear end to 4:30. That will make a huge difference on your pulling ability. The first thing you should do before anything else. It will be easier on your transmission an engine.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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jetjock16

I love your truck but I am mildly ticked that you still keep up the same old same old after dozens of posts told you that the lift and bigger tires dramatically effect the rigs towing ability. Even if you regeared down to 4.88 the drive angles are all wrong and the drag of the larger meats and tall dirty aero profile kill any performance.

I am in central texas at Fort Hood. Drag your truck and trailer over here and let me hook your toy hauler up to a stock 3v V10 with 4.30:1 and standard tires and let me show you how to pass any stock PSD.

Your expectations are un realistic. But you do have a very cool grocery getter!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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I fell 4.30's are mandatory for towing. Transgo has a good tranny kit that will increse the longevity of your tranny and help deal with towing. Don't know about headers, I hear they kill low end tq. Havent done the header thing since I was 16 with the old F150. Several people in the V10 forums have SCers. Like some others have said, 37' is really big.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Bump

This is a duplicat posting started by schaad25 on the 17th

You can always go to the bottom of the page and look at any of the past postings that are not archived and post to the topic to bump it back to the top or first page.

No need to start the topic over again.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Hmmmmm, so you're saying that if I regeared my F350 with 5.13:1 gears from 4.30s, it's not gonna help me at all in the towing area? My boat only weights about 4500lbs. and my truck struggles up the hills. Also, I am nearly ready to get some new tires also, and may very well get some 38"s (alittle bigger than my worn out 37"s) for a bitchen set of weld wheels I have sitting in the garage. I'd think an upgrade in gearing from 4.30 to 5.13 would have to help alot... wouldn't that put the final drive ratio somewhere back where it was with stock tires???
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PurerockRacing
Hmmmmm, so you're saying that if I regeared my F350 with 5.13:1 gears from 4.30s, it's not gonna help me at all in the towing area? My boat only weights about 4500lbs. and my truck struggles up the hills. Also, I am nearly ready to get some new tires also, and may very well get some 38"s (alittle bigger than my worn out 37"s) for a bitchen set of weld wheels I have sitting in the garage. I'd think an upgrade in gearing from 4.30 to 5.13 would have to help alot... wouldn't that put the final drive ratio somewhere back where it was with stock tires???
Of course it would, 20% bigger tires would, need 20% more gear to keep everything equal/equal. Were you kidding about asking this ? Your truck is struggling to get underway unloaded, 4500 lbs of boat just make it worse. Plus the added strain on your transmission will tear it up sooner or later. Sooner is my guess. Hey, big tires and lifts are just way too cool to not have them. But you have to do more than hang some meats on some rims and crank up the suspension. Go for the 5.13's, you'll feel like you have a supercharger, Ken
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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that's exactly what I wanted to hear!! Thanks! I am going to have the rear gears installed by a pro shop, and I am going to do the fronts myself. I've done a few rear ends over the years Mostly Ford 9" ers, but I want the rear setup up perfect. I think the front I can do myself and since it has limited usage, if I'm off by a thousandth or so on the lash, it won't be such a big deal.
 
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