Some '06 Chevy notes
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Originally Posted by BigF350
I do remember those...
I spose it is just our respective markets.
Australia has a HUGE aversion to anything above about 180hp that is FWD.
In small cars, anything over this number has to be AWD.
In larger cars either AWD or RWD is acceptable.
I spose it is just our respective markets.
Australia has a HUGE aversion to anything above about 180hp that is FWD.
In small cars, anything over this number has to be AWD.
In larger cars either AWD or RWD is acceptable.
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I met some interesting people the other night informing me that thier (amazingly stock looking) Honda Civic can "pull 12's" so yeah, I sure can.
Whats the address?
How many would you like?
I only have a small 3'x3' box, but I can squash 'em in.
Whats the address?
How many would you like?
I only have a small 3'x3' box, but I can squash 'em in.
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I've mentioned before that inside of GM, there's a war being waged between the great and the goofy. Unfortunately, often members of both contingents are on the same steering committee- which explains a lot of GM's current passenger car offerings.
What saved Cadillac is that a car guy (John Grettenberg- now in charge of GM NA) saw that the division had to either address...and resonate... with a different crowd, or kiss their butts goodbye ala Oldsmobile. The first step he took was to separate Cadillac from Buick. Then came the Art & Science Design Theme, and along with it the Rock 'n Roll ad campaign.
That edgy styling has deep roots in Cadillac-land. Study the lines of the '67 Eldorado. That was Cadillacs real breakthrough car. Unfortunately, GM management disliked the car, Ford's more conservative Mark III outsold it, and the Eldo got turned into a fat, overblown caricature of itself.
One final bit of Cadillac trivia- anyone know where Cadillac got its' start? It was formed out of the remains of...
are you ready for this...
The Henry Ford Motor Car Company, after Henry left it.
What saved Cadillac is that a car guy (John Grettenberg- now in charge of GM NA) saw that the division had to either address...and resonate... with a different crowd, or kiss their butts goodbye ala Oldsmobile. The first step he took was to separate Cadillac from Buick. Then came the Art & Science Design Theme, and along with it the Rock 'n Roll ad campaign.
That edgy styling has deep roots in Cadillac-land. Study the lines of the '67 Eldorado. That was Cadillacs real breakthrough car. Unfortunately, GM management disliked the car, Ford's more conservative Mark III outsold it, and the Eldo got turned into a fat, overblown caricature of itself.
One final bit of Cadillac trivia- anyone know where Cadillac got its' start? It was formed out of the remains of...
are you ready for this...
The Henry Ford Motor Car Company, after Henry left it.
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Are you serious Polar??
BigF350...how did you know for sure that it was going to be less then the 2006 Duramax? Is it safe to assume that Ford will make more power out of it now?
Polar, how long have you known about this 6.9L GM has in it's arsenal?
(Edited: BigF350)
BigF350...how did you know for sure that it was going to be less then the 2006 Duramax? Is it safe to assume that Ford will make more power out of it now?
Polar, how long have you known about this 6.9L GM has in it's arsenal?
(Edited: BigF350)
Last edited by BigF350; Jul 24, 2005 at 08:33 AM. Reason: Duracrap
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Just a hunch Nick 
I don't know whether it will be coming with more power/torque now...
I can imagine that it will depend on the actual performance compared to the Duramax.
For example, on paper the Duramax (and the Cummins) should have the PSD's measure in terms of acceleration.
The Ford weighs the most, and both the Duramax and the CTD make more torque, and are only behind by a small amount in terms of power in the case of the Duramax.
Yet I am not aware of any type of acceleration testing performed by magazines that the stock PSD has not come out of on top.
If the new PSD can keep up/or beat the new Duramax, well then I wouldn't expect more power or torque out of it.
I don't know whether it will be coming with more power/torque now...
I can imagine that it will depend on the actual performance compared to the Duramax.
For example, on paper the Duramax (and the Cummins) should have the PSD's measure in terms of acceleration.
The Ford weighs the most, and both the Duramax and the CTD make more torque, and are only behind by a small amount in terms of power in the case of the Duramax.
Yet I am not aware of any type of acceleration testing performed by magazines that the stock PSD has not come out of on top.
If the new PSD can keep up/or beat the new Duramax, well then I wouldn't expect more power or torque out of it.
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I was curious.
The PSD does weigh more, and has less torque, but manual, or auto tranny, from everything I've seen, the PSD is ALWAYS on top. I would like to see a good 6 speed auto to go with the 6 speed manual.
If there is any truth to the rumours, and Ford is going twin turbo (for emission reasons?), I wander what the 6.9L Polar mentioned will have. Hybrid? or twin turboed as well?
This just got a whole lot more interesting
The PSD does weigh more, and has less torque, but manual, or auto tranny, from everything I've seen, the PSD is ALWAYS on top. I would like to see a good 6 speed auto to go with the 6 speed manual.
If there is any truth to the rumours, and Ford is going twin turbo (for emission reasons?), I wander what the 6.9L Polar mentioned will have. Hybrid? or twin turboed as well?
This just got a whole lot more interesting
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If there is any truth to the rumours, and Ford is going twin turbo
Maybe, just maybe
And it won't be for better emissions, it will be for improved low rpm response, and more linear power delivery.
Maybe, just maybe
And it won't be for better emissions, it will be for improved low rpm response, and more linear power delivery.
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My windstar (basically a bloated taurus) has ~200hp, and is FWD... The thing is a rocket, but tromp it to pass and it jumps to the right, so you have to be prepared.... It's a strong running beast, I just wish it was RWD.....
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
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Almost forgot; have you ever heard of the Caddy Eldorado or Olds Toronado?
Back in the day these monster had 500CID and 455's that were close to 500 pounds of torque............and they were FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Almost forgot; have you ever heard of the Caddy Eldorado or Olds Toronado?
Back in the day these monster had 500CID and 455's that were close to 500 pounds of torque............and they were FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Jim
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Originally Posted by polarbear
DMAX-HD I'd venture to say it's even higher ...
Which, the HP current owners are running, or the percentage of them running it?
Sssh! What's interesting is you'd think we'd have Allisons flying apart right and left, but so far so good (knock on wood).
Which, the HP current owners are running, or the percentage of them running it?
Sssh! What's interesting is you'd think we'd have Allisons flying apart right and left, but so far so good (knock on wood).
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Originally Posted by polarbear
One final bit of Cadillac trivia- anyone know where Cadillac got its' start? It was formed out of the remains of...
are you ready for this...
The Henry Ford Motor Car Company, after Henry left it.
are you ready for this...
The Henry Ford Motor Car Company, after Henry left it.
In June 1901, Leland was under contract by Olds Motor Works to produce engines for the curved dash Oldsmobile. He developed a refined version that developed 23 percent more horsepower. This new engine, however, was rejected by the Olds people because retooling for it would further delay production which had already been delayed by the factory fire in March. Henry Leland's desire to get into the automobile business was fulfilled a year later through the courtesy of Henry Ford.
In August 1902 William Murphy and Lemuel W. Bowen called in Leland as a consultant. Murphy and Bowen were two of the financial backers behind Ford's automotive venture. They were disappointed that Ford seemed to produce little more than racing cars. So they called in Leland as a consultant to appraise the automobile plant and equipment so they could sell it and get out. Leland showed them the engine rejected by Olds and suggested they stay in. Thus was born the Cadillac Automobile Company, named for Le Sieur Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac, the French explorer who had discovered Detroit in early Eighteenth Century. The president of Cadillac was C. A. Black.
In August 1902 William Murphy and Lemuel W. Bowen called in Leland as a consultant. Murphy and Bowen were two of the financial backers behind Ford's automotive venture. They were disappointed that Ford seemed to produce little more than racing cars. So they called in Leland as a consultant to appraise the automobile plant and equipment so they could sell it and get out. Leland showed them the engine rejected by Olds and suggested they stay in. Thus was born the Cadillac Automobile Company, named for Le Sieur Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac, the French explorer who had discovered Detroit in early Eighteenth Century. The president of Cadillac was C. A. Black.
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Some people need to open there eyes to the diesel market, because a 400 hp dmax is easy to come buy and there is no real worry of bombing the engine or transmission. just maybe the dreaded limp mode that more and more people are learning about.
GM is not sticking their head out on a limb to make the 6.6 Dmax go to 360 hp/ 650 lb ft. that will be as easy as you and I going up town for bread and milk. ( that is no joke) a little comp programing and they would not even have to change the specs of the motor.
i am looking forward to all of this hp it makes me grin.
GM is not sticking their head out on a limb to make the 6.6 Dmax go to 360 hp/ 650 lb ft. that will be as easy as you and I going up town for bread and milk. ( that is no joke) a little comp programing and they would not even have to change the specs of the motor.
i am looking forward to all of this hp it makes me grin.
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you see it in the aftermarket tuner market. Each consecutive bump in factory engine performance brings about a little smaller increase in aftermarket performance. Until finially I suspect the motor will reach 'terminal capacity'
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Originally Posted by duramaximizer
Some people need to open there eyes to the diesel market, because a 400 hp dmax is easy to come buy and there is no real worry of bombing the engine or transmission. just maybe the dreaded limp mode that more and more people are learning about.
GM is not sticking their head out on a limb to make the 6.6 Dmax go to 360 hp/ 650 lb ft. that will be as easy as you and I going up town for bread and milk. ( that is no joke) a little comp programing and they would not even have to change the specs of the motor.
i am looking forward to all of this hp it makes me grin.
GM is not sticking their head out on a limb to make the 6.6 Dmax go to 360 hp/ 650 lb ft. that will be as easy as you and I going up town for bread and milk. ( that is no joke) a little comp programing and they would not even have to change the specs of the motor.
i am looking forward to all of this hp it makes me grin.
As long as you can keep the Dmax cool...My bro (who has a new 05 LLY, called me today and is really worried about the cooling problems some of the LLYs are having according to the forums he visits. There is even talk of a class action lawsuit. Hope it does not come to that.