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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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clutch questions

I know that it is not that hard and not alot of parts. But can someone explain all of this to me i am lost completely. I dont mean for this to be a stupid question.

I need to know everything from what goes first to last and where


pics would be good, If any are availble.



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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Well from the block back.. Pilot bushing in the end of the crank, flywheel, friction plate, pressure plate, clutch fork with throw-out bearing, bellhousing. Snout of the tranny fits in the middle of all till it hits the bellhousing for bolt up.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike G
Well from the block back.. Pilot bushing in the end of the crank, flywheel, friction plate, pressure plate, clutch fork with throw-out bearing, bellhousing. Snout of the tranny fits in the middle of all till it hits the bellhousing for bolt up.

Hurt or help? --Mike


Pilot bushing??? I think that i am missing something.

I have got the fly wheel on the motor.

i am taking that what you are calling the friction plate is what i call the clutch disc.

Pressure plate. Is the big heavy plate that bolts to the flywheel that hold the clutch disc to the flywheel.

Throw out bearing. I havegot a bearing that i am assuming to be the throw out bearing. It is a machined smooth surface on one side and and it has these spring clips on the other. The other side is kind of a rectangle plate that has these clips. where does this go which way.


I do know that the clutch disc has to go in one way. On one side the center stick out further then the other. I am assuming that the side that does not stick out as far goes in toward the crank?



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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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The "pilot bushing" is the brass ring in the center of crankshaft hole. It's about 1 1/2" diameter with a 5/8" hole in center. It supports the nose of tranny shaft. Pretty good idea to replace it anytime you do the clutch. It's a $5 part. Removing the old one can be a beech, but can be done. I have a way, but if you don't work at a machine shop you won't have the pieces I have. They will rent you a "puller" at Azone or such.

Yes, the clutch disc ONLY fits one way. If you have it backwards, the plate will never fit over and bolt down. The "spring" hub is too tall to fit any way but the right way.

The throw out bearing only fits on the throw out arm one way. Clip the bearing over the end of the arm and then clip the arm onto the tab inside bellhousing. This just holds everything in line to help assy. It then floats to align itself.

Most clutch kits come with alignment tool for hub splines. It is very important that you get disc ON CENTER or you will never get tranny thru it. Once you get plate bolts started so that it just holds disc, insert tool and snug bolts 1/2 turn to hold everything. I then run my fingers around the plate and feel for disc alignment. It will still tend to hang down even WITH alignment tool(just from the weight of it all). So once you just snug it, run your fingers around outside to feel for disc. Make sure it's even all around, then tighten bolts. Then make sure alignment tool slides in/out easily.


Hope this gives some insight....
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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that it does. Thanks I will try to get that pilot bushing.


How does that go in? Is it it pressed or anything that i need to do special? how do i get the old one out. (I think that the machine shop has already get it out for me though.) but just in case that have not.


Can someone go onile to www.advanceautoparts.com see look that the ones that they show.

I am going to post this link. I am not sure if it will work but they are showing several

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=466&ptset=A

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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I have a 2U crank if that helps out any
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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they probaly removed it if you had the crank turned or polished, the autoparts store will know what you need, just check the center hole on your trans input shaft to make sure its right, it press fits into the crank, you can drive it in yourself, use something flat like the backside of a large socket
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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your link only takes you to the home page
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hiball3985
your link only takes you to the home page


darn well it shows picture for 5 different types all different shapes

do this to get to it

under shopping on the left side click replacement autp parts.
Then on the right side under replacement parts click on Clutch, CV, & drive shaft
Then in where it shows the parts list Clutch Pilot Bearing / Bushing.
The first part number Motormite 14655. This one has a picture and shows the parts.



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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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starded thinking, there are aftermarket pressure plate bolts that are stronger than originals, after you get all the bolts started tightenthem down evenly a little at a time in a criss cross pattern
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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ok, I went to your link and searched it, the pictures arent to good, type a is the standard, the others look like the bearing type
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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There is only ONE std FE pilot bushing. Most Azone or such "should" have at least one in stock. My last one looked like it had been there YEARS!!!!!

IF there is no "brass" looking bushing in back of crankshaft, then they took it out. Most times with my machine shop they DON'T remove it. Rent a puller and pop it out. Installing a new one is easy. A large hammer with a nice sized socket to help tap it in. Don't mash it with just a hammer. You need something to hit away from the center hole. It will take a few good hits to get it started straight, then it will go in.

New plate bolts wouldn't hurt, especially for a Hi-Perf. use. Mr. Gasket makes a nice set. check Summit or Jegs?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by hiball3985
ok, I went to your link and searched it, the pictures arent to good, type a is the standard, the others look like the bearing type

Thanks I will get the type A and if does not work then i can take it back



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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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I thought there was only one too, but didn't want to put my neck on the block.................lol
 
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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LOL!! Ya, not to say there aren't difference styles(bearing or bronze), but maybe for big trucks (FT). Our FE's should have basically one size for all.

Motormite should be the right one. I"ve used them before.
 
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