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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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Actually it's 496CI the 502 is a crate motor never offered from the factory it is a stroked 454.

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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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yah 572 is also a stroked 454 right?

Btw my bad about the mistake i wasn't sure if it were 495 or 496 off the top of my head. It still perty bad ars no matter what lol.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Yup but i think the 502 and the 572 have the taller deck truck blocks vs the short deck car blocks. I know more about fords than i do chevs.

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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Talking I-6 in our future?

The word I had from a local dealer in Dallas is that Ford is looking at a new diesel engine for light trucks. The word he has it that a current contender is a Ford-built I-6 Diesel in the 4-5 liter range, and the target date is 2007 model year. I'm saving my pennies.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DT 466Man
Yup but i think the 502 and the 572 have the taller deck truck blocks vs the short deck car blocks. I know more about fords than i do chevs.

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Don't know about the 572, but pretty sure the 502 uses a standard deck height block. The aftermarket stroker 502 kits are std block. I can see where it would be hard to get 572 out of a short deck block, but I thought they stopped building tall truck blocks years ago. (coulda brought 'em back I guess).
No replacement for displacement though huh? Ever seen the old GMC v6's? They had one that was 478 CID, and a V12 that was 702 CID!
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 05:41 AM
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But I-H was the king of big sixes.

Imagine a 406, 450, or 501 CID six in a 3/4 ton or 1-ton?

RD406 = 4.375x4.500" bore and stroke
RD450 = 4.375x5.000"
RD501 = 4.500x5.250"

even the BD308 was 3.812x4.500

They were not and wouldn't be fast, but o lordy, a Dodge Cummins wouldn't stand a chance.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DeepRoots
cummins 5.9's are great, but it is so hard to find the older non-computerized ones.
when I went hunting for my diesel a 6.9 or 7.3 was my only option.
I would have prefered an inline like my 4.9

and don't glamourize the simplicity of recent 5.9's a friend recently had to replace an injector pump which cost $1,800.... mine costs $250

all cars are more 'computerized' and aren't much better for the adjustment.

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Where do you get an IP for $250? They cost $600 everywhere I've checked.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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Ford killed the I6 so they could go to the shorter, rounder front end when their trucks went ugly in '97.
That's pretty much why all of the inlines have died, both the I8 and I6.
That was the reason behind Dodge's Slant Six, the lower hood line they were able to achive.
Funny too, how so many people on ebay list any straight 6 as a "slant six", come on people, Jaguar never used one of those.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wrkhrs6
Imagine a 406, 450, or 501 CID six in a 3/4 ton or 1-ton?

RD406 = 4.375x4.500" bore and stroke
RD450 = 4.375x5.000"
RD501 = 4.500x5.250"

even the BD308 was 3.812x4.500

They were not and wouldn't be fast, but o lordy, a Dodge Cummins wouldn't stand a chance.
Wow, those are some big Inlines. Do you have any Hp/torque numbers on those?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 01:57 AM
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HEHE, here in alabama, lovely alabama, we took a ford 300, and threw it in a datsun 280z (an inline 6 car). The datsun was rated at about 120 HP(or something like that) and 200 ftlbs If im not mistaken, well it met 180 HP (our estimates, a 4bbl intake, and some open headers, and probably close to 280-300 ft lbs, it cut some sick *** donuts till it ripped to tranny apart, at least from what i was told by our shop teacher, i unfortunately wasnt much older than 12 at the time.

BTW, you all just wait, I have a twin turbo I6 in the plans, parts being built as we speak. Looking for about 400 ft/lbs, and 230-250 HP @ less than 6 pounds of boost. Cant wait to.

Does anyone know if you can get dropped spindles for a 93 f-150 4X4? I cant figure out a a way to drop the truck with the twin torsion beam front end, and I would like to keep my 4wd for certain, situations that might arise (looking at swapping a rather elaborate tranfer case allowing for all time AWD.)

Tell these ricers you got a AWD twin turbo, half will say skyline, half will say supra, all will be wrong, and they will all cry when you say its bigger than 5 liters ( bored 60 over hehe). I mean hell, best ive ever gotten was 15 MPG, might as well say &$#$#(($#&*#$ gas mileage, and tear some ricers up.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jefftopgun
HEHE, here in alabama, lovely alabama, we took a ford 300, and threw it in a datsun 280z (an inline 6 car). The datsun was rated at about 120 HP(or something like that) and 200 ftlbs If im not mistaken, well it met 180 HP (our estimates, a 4bbl intake, and some open headers, and probably close to 280-300 ft lbs, it cut some sick *** donuts till it ripped to tranny apart, at least from what i was told by our shop teacher, i unfortunately wasnt much older than 12 at the time.

BTW, you all just wait, I have a twin turbo I6 in the plans, parts being built as we speak. Looking for about 400 ft/lbs, and 230-250 HP @ less than 6 pounds of boost. Cant wait to.

Does anyone know if you can get dropped spindles for a 93 f-150 4X4? I cant figure out a a way to drop the truck with the twin torsion beam front end, and I would like to keep my 4wd for certain, situations that might arise (looking at swapping a rather elaborate tranfer case allowing for all time AWD.)

Tell these ricers you got a AWD twin turbo, half will say skyline, half will say supra, all will be wrong, and they will all cry when you say its bigger than 5 liters ( bored 60 over hehe). I mean hell, best ive ever gotten was 15 MPG, might as well say &$#$#(($#&*#$ gas mileage, and tear some ricers up.
Now you're talkin! heck, with a twin turbo'd 300, I'd go to truck/tractor pulls and hook the sled! You probobly couldn't since they only let diesel trucks pull, but you could try.

I'd love to see a rusted out ford truck smoke a riced out honda at a stop light!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Schmids4.9l
Wow, those are some big Inlines. Do you have any Hp/torque numbers on those?
From Chilton's:
CID HP TQ
1961-71 BD308 150@3600 280@2000
1964-71 RD406 193@3200 373@1600
1969-71 RD450 202@3000 422@1600
1964-71 RD501 212@3000 451@1600

All with between 6.5 and 7.1 compression ratios. They would run on paint thinner and water. I had a buddy who's dad had a '63 1-ton 4x4. It was just SICK. He finally got rid of it up in the '70s when they began making parts out of unobtanium.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 02:32 AM
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OMG THATS SICK!!!!!!! where can i get the rd501? Sonuds insane. can you say wheelie?

BTW, with these lovely torquemonsters, has anyone solved the wheelhop issue short of tosion beams or traction beams or watever they are that totally break everything if you use them off road?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 04:44 AM
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Well, just in case you wanted a new Ford inline, you can still get one...


In Australia
Check this out:
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.455

This baby makes 330lbft at 1500rpms, and has over 410lbft of torque from 2000rpm to 4250rpm, all from the factory.

And just in case you were worried about reliability, these things (in non turbo form) are renowned for doing over 600000miles in Taxis running on Propane...

Here is a photo of one making 1163hp with stock internals.


I have a video of the dyno run of it too if anyone wants it, I can e-mail it to them. Just e-mail me asking for it.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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hmmm
how well will one of those bolt into a f150? Its a smaller motor, and blows our 4.9 outa the water in terms of TQ, seems that it CAN be easily turboed, ......AWJKGNKJ BNF GJ II WANT!!!!! I bet it gets like 25-30 MPG if its in a taxi too!
 
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