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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 76fordtruck
inside you mean? sorry to correct you..
No, outside is right. My Aussie locker will let a tire spin faster than the diff, so when turning it allows the outside tire to unlock, or slip if you want to call it. The inside tire won't slip, because it wants to go slower than the diff and the locker won't allow that. So it is locked.

 
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Ok that's right, because the outside tire travles further than the inside tire does.
Ya'll are confusing me.

Oh TallGuy_Az how does your Aussie locker hold up or perform in your diff?, and which ones Front? Rear? I was looking into them and I like what I read, but I don't know anyone with one to ask, so what do you think of it?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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A locker and posi are essentially the same, only the posi uses clutch plates. A spool is great for rock crawlin and climbing.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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OMG, no they are not!!!! they aren't even close! we have some very uneducated folks come in here and try and spread bad info FRIGGIN QUIT!! if l/s and locker are essentially the same why would folks wanna put lockers in and spend all that time and money?

n l/s spinds both tires on the axle until drag is applied to one of the tires and then all you have is one tire spinning. a locker does exactly that it LOCKS the both tires so they both spin.

also, l/s's get weaker and weaker the more you use them, lockers dont!

BTW.... posi is a chevy term and limited slip is a ford term just so you dont sound stupid next time

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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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i know that. a detroit locker (what he was asking aobut ) and a limited slip (happy?) are going to give you about the same thing, but the locker is a hell of alot more solid.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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on they wont! they are nothing alike! once one of the tires starts to bog down it'll quit spinning, therefore not helping all that much. it's really only keeping you from getting stuck in your front yard. a locker is locked solid and not matter what you do (unless you turn it off) and both tires will be spinning whether its 2 feet under the mud or 2 feet in the air! they are nothing alike!

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Oh I always thought differently bout them. And from experience they have seemed to perform similarly, but thanks for clearing things up.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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i am glad thats cleared up. the problem being that theres quite of few lurkers and floaters that browse here and sometimes some info will get mixed up and people get all confused. then we get people who get mad at us for not straightening out bad info. but its cool, we are all here to learn.

once again.... a locker is NOT a l/s and a l/s is NOT a locker!

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 79'Ford
i know that. a detroit locker (what he was asking aobut ) and a limited slip (happy?) are going to give you about the same thing, but the locker is a hell of alot more solid.
its quite simple, a locker is a mechanical device that can lock both tires together like a spool, be it a selectable or auto locker(detroit).

a l/s is just an open diff with clutch plates to help deal with the unavoidable one wheel wonders(except the ones with helical cut gears)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:55 AM
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a limited slp has one power wheel and the other wheel has power but not like a locker?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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Jeesh, pick up an off road magazine already. There is always info in them about differentials. Make sure you know what you are talking about before you speak.

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Smile They are what they say.

Originally Posted by 79'Ford
a limited slp has one power wheel and the other wheel has power but not like a locker?
A locker sends 100% power to both wheels(locked) when a specific amount of torque is aplide.

A limited slip has clutches that push together when one of the wheels slip or spin (in mud or when peeling out ect...)an then about 60% 40%(power to the wheels) when a specific amount of torque is aplide(after wheels slip or spin).

That is the most basic, and most understadable explenation.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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A Trac-lok can also be ruined after a handful of redline clutch drops, or a few outings of hard beating. The Detroit or a spool will keep smiling.

Kubota - to answer your question. Who ya gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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I think the only good limited slip is the Detroit True trac its the only one that is made today that uses gears to drive both tires. When it comes down to it nothing can really beat the traction of 4wheeldrive. Nothing can really replace that other front wheel pulling with the rear wheel pushing.

I have looked into ways of getting a 2wd 1.5 ton truck to get better traction. You can put a detroit locker in the diff it does give you extra traction but you still have the problem if both back wheels are on soft ground the rear tires just spin and sink. The other problem is the road manners you get with the clanking and banging and the extra tire wear.

Now look at limited slip diffs they work good on the street but get into a little offroad it doesn't work as well as a locker because of the torque bias.

Who ever says a limited slip is a locker needs to learn some more about offroading

I have decided why fool around just get 4wheeldrive its proven that it works offroad. Like I said I have been thinking of running mud type tire and run a locker in a 2wd dually flatdeck but when it comes down it I don't know if it will help as much as having a 4x4.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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You can do all you want to that dually but with only two wheel drive you arent going to be able to even touch a 4X4.
 
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