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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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went to another dealer other than the one I bought it from and the service guy ran a warranty claim and then he asked me if I knew that my 04 f-250 psd was a reaquired vehicle. I told him I had no idea and if I knew that I wouldn't of bought it. Anybody have any ideas what I should do? I'm in IL. and don't know if the dealer has to disclose that info. The truck has only 24,000 miles on it and according to the warranty claim has had 3 oil leaks, 1 engine assy, 2 new batteries, timing cover, oil pan gakets and a pcm recalabration. any info, please help
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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i think i would be taking a trip back to the selling dealer and saying buyback, buyback again and going to the local bbb.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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I am not sure but, I thought buyback titles had to dislose that it was / is a buyback. In most states anyway.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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I've always wondered what happens to buyback vehicles.............
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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just got of the phone with the owner of the dealership and he said that he will get in touch with me by noon tommorrow. He also said he had know idea about it, that he will be talking to his sales manager in the morning. Also a little before that the service manager called and wanted to setup an appointment for me to bring the truck back in to fix the leak that they already fixed once which leaked 3 days later. And they also said would take 5 days to do which really took 2 1/2 weeks. The hood doesn't line up no more, either does the fenders, they splattered trans fluid all over the place. And to top it all off, the reason they said it so long is cause they aren't setup to pull a psd engine at their ford dealership. I told them they shouldn't sell them then. And now they want to work on it again. I've only owned this truck since march, and since then it's spent about 24 days at the dealership being fixed. Don't get me wrong, I love the truck but this one is a lemon.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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A word of advice to everyone, before you buy a used one, go get a warranty claim form or what some people call it an oasis form. That will tell you everything that has been fixed on the truck during warranty
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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Sounds like fraud to me!
Call your State Attorney General Office - see if they
have anybody to talk to.
Depending on what kind of helo (if any) you get,
think I would spend a few bucks for an atty consultation.
You might really be in the "driver's seat" if they mis-
represented the vehicle.
Try a carfax on the net. (Believe it costs about $20.)
Would be interesting (for you) to know who owned the
vehicle before you - if possible.
Make some calls - BEFORE you talk to that dealer!
Good luck!
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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Any of the VIN numbers I have run on a Ford dealer lot has been straight. I have found buy backs at a used car dealer here in Ohio. I did wonder where they went to when bought back.
 

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:36 AM
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Well I did some research and this is Ohio's answer.

Your Right to Laundered Lemon Warnings
The Lemon Law in Ohio (like most states) prohibits lemon laundering. Ohio law requires manufacturers to do three things after repurchasing a vehicle.

1. Brand the Title as a Lemon;
2. Warn the Buyer with a Written List of the Defects before the sale; and
3. Give the Buyer a One Year Warranty.
Plus, if the vehicle had a deadly defect, it's not allowed to be resold in Ohio at all - ever!
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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Problem is, a buy back is not necessarily a declared "Lemon" vehicle. May not have made it that far in the process. Buyback may have cut it off at the pass, so to speak.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Misrepresentation, Deceptive business practices

> fly by u <
> my 04 f-250 psd was a reaquired vehicle <
Think:
Negligent (or intentional) withholding of a material fact in the sale of the truck. And there is no defense to that being a material fact. (( With that information made available to you, at the time of the offer to sell the truck to you, would you have continued with the purchase agreement?? The withholding of such a fact, does influence the decision making process of a prospective buyer.
Deception.
> don't know if the dealer has to disclose that info. <
Damn right they do. Don't be suprised though, after you read your sales contract, you may find it noted in there;it cannot be in small print. Re-read your original sales contract/agreement, first.
> He also said he had know idea about it, <
Of course that would be his initial response. The important issue here is that he "should" have know and, more critically important, that material fact should have been made available to you. One cannot hide behind "I did not know".
> fly by u <
> before you buy a used one, go get a warranty claim form or what some people call it an oasis form <
And, of course, this action, does not, in any way, relieve the seller (dealership) from the legal responsibility to inform the prospective buyer, that the truck was a buy-back. And this has to be done as part of the sales contract--to protect them.
> Maxium 4x4 <
> Your Right to Laundered Lemon Warnings
The Lemon Law in Ohio (like most states) prohibits lemon laundering <
Very good input -- all should be alerted to this issue -- take note, you-all.

In closing: Deceptive business practices can result in a total voiding of the sale. Thus, placing the buyer in "the position" he/she was in prior to making the purchase----totally. That is the penalty of manifesting deceptive business practices. BTW, what state are you in -- no need to mention the dealership, for you will still have to negotiate with them.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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I'm in il.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Laundered, Lemon, Repurchased in Ohio has to be disclosed.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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I am sure it does everywhere...at least I hope so. I was just offering up that there is a distinction between a lemon and a buyback. But yes, it has always been my understanding that all should be stated on the title.

Deceptive sales is a really nasty label for a dealer to get stuck with. One would think that a factory dealer will be quick to correct.

If it is a used car lot...may have problems.

Good luck and please keep us advised.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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just got off the phone with the owner and manager all they keep saying is let us fix it. I kept telling them to get me out of this truck and they don't like that idea. Can someone please tell me where i can get a copy of this disclosure law
 
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