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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Chip question

Will a powerstroke run with NO chip installed on the PCM?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Yes!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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Really? I took mine out, and shortly after, the computer shut down the driver side bank of cylinders. I talked to the local mechanic, an he said that there has to be some sort of chip in there to run. Either stock or modified. So this could be a different problem?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Any suggestions?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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The mechanic must be a bit confused. There is no such thing as a stock chip in these trucks. If you removed the aftermarket chip, the truck will return to stock. Did you remove the fuse for the ECM or disconnect the battery cables before you pulled the chip? If not, that could be a problem as well. I would bet on a wiring harness problem. That's fairly common. Hope it helps.

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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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I have replaced all the injector wire harnesses on that side. My question is, what goes in place of the aftermarket chip? There is a open area that is replaced with --- what???
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Nothing, the ECM had a plastic plug to cover the hole from the factory but that's all. Maybe you have an IDM malfunctioning. Does it throw any codes?

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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fordf350crazy
I have replaced all the injector wire harnesses on that side. My question is, what goes in place of the aftermarket chip? There is a open area that is replaced with --- what???
nothing does, it is the programing port for the PCM. once the PCM is manufactured the factory loads the program into it via that port then they coat it with a sealer (which has to be removed when an after market chip is installed). there is NO factory chip
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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The codes are comming up as: 603 and 1280
 
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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These codes do not point in any particular direction, from what the mechanis is telling me. He says that it is a wiring issue, and can take many hours to figure out. Any ideas or suggestions?
 
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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empty space here and
the pcm where the aftermarket chip goes

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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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603 is Internal Control Module KAM error.
1280 is ICP circuit out of range low

Sounds to me like your ICP sensor is bad, or there is a short in the wiring to it or the injector harness. I'd start tracing wires back from each to the points of origin and inspect them thoroughly. Hope it helps.

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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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0603 PCED Powertrain Control Module KAM error No historical faults output during a KOEO test Open PCM pin, disconnected B+, faulty PCM
1280* ICP ICP circuit out of range low Uses inferred ICP strategy Open/grounded circuit, biased sensor, PCM
for the 603 you probably got that from disconnecting batt's and the 1280 is your truck having a stumble? you can unplug the icp and try running it in default mode to see if truck runs better. you can pick one of those up on ebay cheap. it is on drivers side head all the way up front.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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These codes do not point in any particular direction, from what the mechanis is telling me. He says that it is a wiring issue, and can take many hours to figure out. Any ideas or suggestions?
seriously sounds like he wants lots of your money too. any parts store with a high end code scanner can help you out. notice i said high end not all of them work. and fix it yourself trust me there is a ton of people here that have all had your same problems before.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1997F-350
seriously sounds like he wants lots of your money too. any parts store with a high end code scanner can help you out. notice i said high end not all of them work. and fix it yourself trust me there is a ton of people here that have all had your same problems before.
I agree whole-heartedly. I don't think I'd be using that mechanic. Just my 2 cents...

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