Any performance PC users here?
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You can bet better temps with a more high end water setup, I know quite a few guys hitting 4ghz easy with there overclocks, there are couple that have touched 5ghz. That much memory kills the overclocks though, but your not overclocking.
Here is one of my older rigs I built a while back. It takes a while to load all the pictures. Thats a Abit NF7-S with a AMD Athlon XP2500 mobile clocked to 2.5ghz and 512meg of TCCD ram running at 2.2.5 hard drive is a 10,000rpm Raptor SATA Video is a modified ATI 9500pro. Cooling is a Mag3 pump, Chevette Heater core, Swiftech 6002-a waterblock and 1/2inch Clearflex tubing with a T-Line, coolant is 90% distilled water and 10% Mercedes clear antifreeze. Thats to kill any algea growth.
http://computer.bigdaddytank.com/dragon
My latest build is here. Its a AMD Athlon64 3200 Venice core on a DFI Lanparty Nforce4 Ultra-D motherboard, 1 gig of Mushkin Redline PC3200, ATI X800XL video card, and two 120gig Seagate 7200.7 SATAII drives in a Raid 0. I'm still burning it in and havent started clocking it yet, should do pretty good.
http://computer.bigdaddytank.com
Here is one of my older rigs I built a while back. It takes a while to load all the pictures. Thats a Abit NF7-S with a AMD Athlon XP2500 mobile clocked to 2.5ghz and 512meg of TCCD ram running at 2.2.5 hard drive is a 10,000rpm Raptor SATA Video is a modified ATI 9500pro. Cooling is a Mag3 pump, Chevette Heater core, Swiftech 6002-a waterblock and 1/2inch Clearflex tubing with a T-Line, coolant is 90% distilled water and 10% Mercedes clear antifreeze. Thats to kill any algea growth.
http://computer.bigdaddytank.com/dragon
My latest build is here. Its a AMD Athlon64 3200 Venice core on a DFI Lanparty Nforce4 Ultra-D motherboard, 1 gig of Mushkin Redline PC3200, ATI X800XL video card, and two 120gig Seagate 7200.7 SATAII drives in a Raid 0. I'm still burning it in and havent started clocking it yet, should do pretty good.
http://computer.bigdaddytank.com
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Very nice - I like the Dragon! One reason I went external is so I can actually fit some PCI cards in the system. I like the Creative over the onboard sound even though they are both 7.1 capable. And of course I need the PCIe video, which the card is quite large. Yeah I know I can get better cooling with a higher end system but those have 2 drawbacks; more $$$ & noise from fans. The setup I have now removes noise completely and keep in mind that that 110F is when both "CPUs" are running 100% sustained. Intel Prescott's are notoriously hot. When my CPU is at idle I see maybe 80F on the CPU die. Also placing the Zalman up to 5 feet away near the A/C means I can quickly cool it down further by turning down the A/C. Since this also cools the room at the same time as the water temp I don't get condenstaion anywhere in the system.
BTW - the ONLY way I've ever seen over 5GHz run stable is with Liquid Nitrogen cooling. If you know someone doing it with liquid or Peltier cooling, I'd LOVE to know how...
BTW - the ONLY way I've ever seen over 5GHz run stable is with Liquid Nitrogen cooling. If you know someone doing it with liquid or Peltier cooling, I'd LOVE to know how...
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From: Shawnee, Ks
You can do high end quiet, but the trade off is room, you need a big case like a CM Stacker or the big Lian-Li's. I have a Lian-Li PC-75 that I'm using for a current project and its a tight fit. Its getting two Bonneville double heatercores 2 MCP600 pumps running on a 13.8v powersupply and a Cather Storm G4 water block. Now I'm saving for a FX-57 to go in it.
Here is a thread on a Intel 630 doing 5ghz with a Prometia.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67297
Here is a thread on a Intel 630 doing 5ghz with a Prometia.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=67297
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TWO Bonneville heater cores!? You placing them up right next to each other like a sandwich or will you have them spaced apart in there? What kind of temps are you getting with Dragon?
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Hmmm...I'm close to purchasing a new PC and working on it...Finally need a new one for college in fall as a freshman (yay me
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This PC is 5 years old(YIKES!). Of course back then it was up there...Overclocked celeron(600mhz) to 900mhz, Triple hard drives,(I removed the floppy cuz I needed the power
), Dual Cd-burners, ATI 7300, SB 16Bit, 256RAM. I added 2 power supply fans to keep things cool. All this running on Win98SE.... Ahhh, 5 years ago, lol
)This PC is 5 years old(YIKES!). Of course back then it was up there...Overclocked celeron(600mhz) to 900mhz, Triple hard drives,(I removed the floppy cuz I needed the power
), Dual Cd-burners, ATI 7300, SB 16Bit, 256RAM. I added 2 power supply fans to keep things cool. All this running on Win98SE.... Ahhh, 5 years ago, lol
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Originally Posted by MRKnight
TWO Bonneville heater cores!? You placing them up right next to each other like a sandwich or will you have them spaced apart in there? What kind of temps are you getting with Dragon?
I'm going to run the heater cores end to end in the top of the case, the back end will need modded because the tank on one will stick out. That may change before I get the thing built though. Danger Den has there BIXIII radiators on sale right now and I been eye one of those. The heater cores need a higher pressure fan (louder) to get the best performance were as on the pre made radiators you can run a low presure fan (quiet) and get good performance. For pumps, its a matter of how restrictive you loop is, some blocks like the Storms are a higher restriction than others so the max head height on the pump is important. Its an expensive hobby. I trade off spending money on the truck and computers.
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You ever consider peltier coolers? I like to play with them but won't use one on a PC - too energy inefficiant.
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I don't mind some noise, the 3 fans on my existing computer are always running but are VERY quiet - under 20dB each. My main concern though is cooling, the stock Intel Prescot fan can run as high as 5000 or 6000 rpm and it didn't bother me for the 2 days I left it on there. On the flip side I don't want something that sounds like an F-14 on deck! I bought an 80mm Tornado fan. This little thing has such a tremondous airflow that if you plug it in and et it on a table it will push itself backwards! I think 100 cfm. But it was also like 70dB - no way I want to hear that all the time.
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