Hello all. My first post and hopefully at some point my first superduty..

Looking at the dealership the other day Im torn between a F250 crewcab V10 and the 6.0 Diesel.
Could you guys inlighten me a little here. It will be a work truck. Occasional hauling right now. Will be used to plow snow in the winters, I have a western V-Blade. Any and all comments suggestion whether good or bad is welcomed.

I havent been able to find anything on gas milage for the V10 or diesel so I dont know how they compare.

Also Truck is currently stickered at 47,000 and some change. Dealer Demo.. 6700 miles letting it go for 38,200 + tax , rebates are already taken out of that.

Thanks

 

V10 ..get out yer wallet
Diesel......better endurance power and cost to operate.

I have the 5.4....Wish I had the diesel.

 

Careful who you get advice from on this subject. You ahve very opinionated people when it comes to this.

What do you plan to use the truck for? Work, Daily Driver, Towing
What is the most you expect to pull / haul?
How close are you to fuel station that sells diesel and wher are they during your normal daily driving?
Do you want to pay the price upfront for the diesel, plus the cost of fuel, plus the cost of oil changes. It takes between 200,000 and 250,000 miles for the cost difference to even out.

Like I said, you will get many different opinions on this subject. Do a little math on the capabilities / limitations on each. Check the V10 forum and the 6.0 forum. Also check out the FAQ's section at the top of the forum for payload, towing, GVWR, GCWR to see what you really need.

OR get what YOU want and be happy with it.

 

>>Also Truck is currently stickered at 47,000 and some change. Dealer Demo.. 6700 miles letting it go for 38,200 + tax , rebates are already taken out of that.

If this is an '05 model, you need to get it NEW with lot mileage NOT 6700 miles. I just built an '06 for $42457 (invioce price) and with the rebates that's $39957. You are not getting a deal with the mileage on the truck.

Let me know what you want to do, I can get you an X-Plan Pin to help on the cost.

 

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SDTruckman, We have a 6.0 Forum and a V10 Forum where this subject is beat to death over and over again ad nauseam. Go to these forums and read some older posts . If you plow for a living , the PSD is probably for you.
Good luck with what you decide.

 

Also Truck is currently stickered at 47,000 and some change. Dealer Demo.. 6700 miles letting it go for 38,200 + tax , rebates are already taken out of that.

Not a good deal...dealer is hosing you. You don't mention what your trade (If any) is doing to you though. A straight up deal in the highly competitive DFW area would likely get you $ 11K to 12K off list...Brand new in the box w/no miles.

However, V-10's are very difficult to find here.

Don't know where you reside but, if you are in the Rochester, NY area it would be to your advantage to contact Jeff (1956MarkII) @ Van Bortel Ford.

If he was any where within 1,000 miles of me that's who I would purchase all my Ford vehicles from.

And stick around here for great info. Welcome to FTE.

 

Both a Work Truck and Daily Driver, approx 20 ft flatbed trailer used for lawnmower equip and a fairly large ford diesel Tractor, used at least once a week. No motor home as of now.
I currently have a Dodge quadcab 2500. I want the Crew Cab of the Ford as it allows me to haul passengers better.



Yeah in my excitement of finding this site and the weehours of the morning, allowing me to get a whole whopping 3 hrs of sleep. I just wanted to get this posted. But then I found several of those posts after I posted.

I Do not plow for a living, however we own some commercial property that I plow.
I have not been able to find much in those posts in regards to plows and plowing and the diesel.

The general idea that I got is, If you drive alot of highways, tow alot of stuff get the Diesel. If you do alot of in town driving and tow occasionally then get gas.

Where im up in the air right now is
fuel milage diesel vs V10 gas --city -- highway. No loads
How the diesel does at plowing, Read that they dont work well when its cold. And its quite a bit heavier.

Thanks for all the help

 

Get the disel. I had a 2000 gasser and it is night and day between the two. Disel has more power and better gas milage and will last longer. Maintanace is higher but you have to pay to play. To replace a headlight on a Lexus is $350.00. Can you afford a 40K to 50k plus truck?

 

Good question. Do you want to pay $40 to $50K for a "real" truck. In March my F350 V-10 dually with 15,000 pound hitch was only $21K ordered built from Ford. Yes, its stripped down, but with the other $29K you can buy two F150's!

 

SDTruckman, I try to keep my opinions of the 6.0 PSD in the V10 Forum because I don't like the 6.0 one little bit. I had an 04 6.0 that caused me to be hauled in twice and my 04
6.0 was much harder on fuel than my 95 and 00 7.3 PSDs which I loved. If I could have ordered my 05 with a 7.3 PSD that is what I would be driving now. Lucky for me I had to go to my V10 because so far this truck is great. With just under 5000 miles the mileage continues to improve and it is not much less than my 04 6.0 lemon was . The diesel was getting around 13 in mixed driving and this V10 can do as high as 12 if I baby it. I like to use the power so I am getting around 11 with my heavy foot and I am tickled pink with this in a 7600 pound truck. With 400 pounds less weight up front this truck is so balanced and handles like a dream on our curvy backroads. Last but not least, it is now almost certain that in model year 07, Ford is coming up with another version of the PSD, supposedly a 6.4 with twin turbos. Some believe this is a natural part of the evolution of this motor. IMO it is a case of Ford putting the poor thing out of its misery. Flame suit on!!!! Wrenchtraveller

 

Remember what I said right up front........Many strong opinions on this subject. Drive both and go with what you feel comfortable with. Even better, if you can rent one for a week (yes I know) you can get a better evaluation of it.

 

Forget all that, find a good used 7.3

 

A V-10 or PSD Superduty will do just fine for pulling or plowing. With the difference between fuel prices of the two they will do the same job at the same cost. BTW for the people that want to debate that a diesel will outlast a gasser....most people that depend on a truck to make money for them do not keep a truck for 150,000+ miles...Unless you tow to make money...thats a different story.

 

Great stuff- and strong opinions, as noted. A few quickies from the Nwst:

1. Owners of '03 and early '04 PSD's may not have a clear view of what's being currently delivered in terms of reliability. It's night vs. day compared to the earlier "teething" period. Also, it's been our experience that the dealership service expertise can make or break the ownership experience.

2. Careful of comments concerning local dealer pricing. The guys forget that rebates and availability are regional- what counts as a good deal in Texas could be thousands away from an acceptable deal in Maine. Example- I've got a buyer for an '05 White/Arizona Beige PSD Crew. There are a whopping two in a four state area available that'll fit the bill, and one dealer won't trade at all. The other will- but it'll take my only '06 King Ranch Crew to get the trade done. Net result- it's going to take a lot more than an invoice deal to put this thing to bed (no, it's not an FTE'er).