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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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hoping that somebody will finally tell them what they want to hear
No one ever does really, which is why I probably do ask some questions again and again. I don't know how many times I asked about the shackles because each and every time no one answered the question I asked, but instead answered one no one at all asked. I eventually got the answer elsewhere.

The thread was the first one, IIRC, in which everyone went into "lets find out what the engine is" instead of what I was really after. Being only the second (old) ford truck I have ever owned, I don't know much about the different blocks. We spent a good many posts trying to figure out what was in it. I finally read somewhere else how to actually tell the difference (by the stroke), since no one here would tell me that. It just so happened that pro told me about the stroke a few minutes after I read it elsewhere (and went outside to measure) and a few minutes before I posted the results. If you had told me that to begin with, we could have saved one whole hell of a lot of trouble. I don't know why you didn't, but you probably didn't because you thought I already knew that, didn't occur to you, or for whatever reason.

It stems down to a lot of communication errors probably on both ends. It would be nice if everyone would just get along, but I don't see that happening, and as a result, I don't see me sticking around here very much. I am sure you really don't care, but I haven't ever had this problem on any other forum, or in real life. When no one answers the question I actually asked (but instead something similar and not asked), I have now learned to give up and ask someone else.

Were you the guy who didn't know what motor he had but mysteriously guessed it had exactly 612 hp?
I am not going to waste my time getting into this again. It is amazing that you still want to though, isn't it, despite all your bitching about repeating the same subjects over and over.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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I guess that means you were

Actually, I remember telling you two good ways of id'ing the motor, the stroke being one of them. Not that any of that matters now. Take it easy since you aren't sticking around here and good luck with your build. Maybe pirate will be able to meet your needs since you seem to think we're soooo bitchy
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad4321
No one ever does really, which is why I probably do ask some questions again and again.
Just curious, if there's an answer that you want to hear and you understand that no one will tell you what you want to hear, then why do you ask?

Ah, stick around... picking on hte Ebay stuff gets old...
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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If you're building a 1000HP engine then a few extra $$ to upgrade a D60/D70 OR a Rockwell axle to chromoly shafts should be chump change to you.

Everyone here has been more than helpful. Trouble is we sometimes run out of patience repeating ourselves.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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If it was me I'd go with a Dana 60 front and forget the Rockwells. Just thought I'd chime in with my advice.

If you are making a mud racer you want it simple and light.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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rawpower: i think ive been on here about 4 more years than you think

i have seen many mud truck with 39.5's and 1/2 ton axles with over 1000 hp, these are full bodied trucks usually gutted, and they dont break. but they weigh in less than 4k. but all they do is stage, mat it and go stright in consistant mud. not near the stress as a local hole out on the trail with rocks and sticks and dry spots etc.

if you want to run 1/2 tons, and you just using it for competition, gut the hell out of it according to the class u want to run it, and dont ever plan to wheel it cause you will break parts. if you want more of an all purpose truck, build something like me, pro, ivan or fishy, with your tire of choice (44's) 1410 driveline, lockers f/r, geared right and 35 spline junk all aorund (like a 70 or sterling rear, and 60 front) For most everything out there you should be fine as far as breaking parts

i just skimmed over this thread, cuz it was too much to read, so i may have missed the point completly, but if your running comps, keep it light and light axles will work, for a play truck like mine, still keep it light, but stout in the drivetrain.

rockwells are heavy with the drums near 1k in the front. and its like 2k for 4 wheel discs, and pinion brakes are cheap, but suck on the street, and oyu can easily shave a rocky to get more clearance than a 60. So basically, like verything...how much do you want to spend

also i didnt see anyone mention TEX on pirate, he knows his mud
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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Just curious, if there's an answer that you want to hear and you understand that no one will tell you what you want to hear, then why do you ask?-
I asked about how to make the shackles and didn't get a reply good enough to know what they were talking about. Yeah, I wanted to hear an answer, didn't get it, so I stopped asking. Some things are hard, I suppose.

If you're building a 1000HP engine then a few extra $$ to upgrade a D60/D70 OR a Rockwell axle to chromoly shafts should be chump change to you.
$8,000 for the engine without any turbo parts (hoping to get junkyard lucky). However, I don't have $8,000 for the engine now, nor do I have anything but the $800 for the axles. Sorry that I don't run out and take a loan to satisfy your completion date.

Everyone here has been more than helpful. Trouble is we sometimes run out of patience repeating ourselves.
Actually, considering the number of threads I have made and the questions in each, you really haven't repeated yourself much at all. In fact, you have repeated more in this thread, something along that specific line more than you have repeated any other similar answer in all the threads combined. Maybe it isn't that you don't like repeating yourself, but that you are instead bored?

I am sure ebay stuff gets old. Afterall, laughing at other people behind your little computer would get old after a while. Then you would need to meet them face to face and laugh at them. It is so much more fun then actually being helpful, isn't it? Afterall, bullies don't do it all for the nickles and dimes.

Overall, have you been helpful? Greatly. Your attitude needs some great work done to it, however. You use the excuse of repeating yourself, but considering how much you want to push the subject, it seems to go much deeper than that. I heard psychologist are great with this line of thing.

I guess that means you were
Wrong? Yes, but so were all of us. IIRC, as I posted in a previous thread, the stroke is 4.25", which would make us all wrong. I received the measurement in a vision in church, so I know it is correct. I bet the crank was custom machined from pure diamond. The vision was very bright and shiny, hinting toward this material.

Actually, on second thought, it means that you want to be bitchy. Ah yes, you spent many replies and much of your time bitching about it before, I suppose that even though you are repeating yourself horribly, it doesn't matter when you are having fun, does it?
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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Wow. I picked the wrong week to promise mods I'd play nice. Let me sum up that the reason you haven't done well here is that you make nutty stuff up, ask simple questions repeadedly and then don't listen to what we have to say, and most importantly, have waaay too much sand in your underwear. I, and many others have tried to help, and you just keep crying about how mean we are. I just couldn't let that whiney "poor me" post go without responding, but now that I have you can rejoice that I won't trouble your threads with anymore responses. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Oh, and that will be 15 cents.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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One thing that hasn't been addressed (unless I missed it) is whether or not you're going to street this vehicle much, if at all. As KO states above, numerous brake configurations are available for Rockwells, but they're all much heavier than standard 1 ton axles. If you're going to be on the street at all, good brakes are a must, as safety has to be the primary concern. Other things to consider that may make Rockies a disadvantage would be long travel distances, one steering axle or two, how much lift will you have, what size tires, and how stout/flexy will you fab the suspension? I've never done this conversion personally, so I can't say how much work you will have to do to the existing brake system on your truck to be able to brake a set of rockies, but that is certainly a consideration as well.

So, in a long-winded way, I'm saying that if you intend to street the truck to the bogs or just to the parts house, standard axles are probably a better choice for driveability and safety reasons. Plus, if after you start using your new rig, you decide to change some things or use it differently, you can do so quickly and cheaply (relative, I know) if you have a 60/70 or 60/sterling combo. Once you fab the rockwell suspension, I doubt it's worth the trouble and expense to put back to stock, just sell the rig and start over. My $.02

Ernie
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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KO, I know how long youve been here... I remember. I know you and Fishy are friends, and I still remember "this other guy's" name that used to post here...too bad he got kicked.

Anyone seen Ho85351 around?
 
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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I guess that means you were

Maybe pirate will be able to meet your needs since you seem to think we're soooo bitchy

 
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