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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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No cold at idle....

Hey guys,

My truck seems to have developed a A/C problem, and I'm pretty sure it's vaccum related.

It's been pretty warm here lately (103F and 85% humidity...) and I can only get the AC to blow lukewarm at idle. Give the motor some revs, and the AC becomes frosty in a hurry.

The system has the proper charge, belts are good, engine fans works right and cooling system is up to snuff, and the compressor runs like it should. Truck only has 58,000 miles on it.

Which leads me to think I have a vaccum leak somewhere. Is there a place on the Superduties that have a known problem with vaccum leaks?

Any opinions on what my next course of action should be?

TIA!
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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A lot of diesels have a problem with the a/c at idle. I always thought it was the low rpm's that caused it. The compressor is not running as fast, therefore the suction pressure is higher; and the condenser is not as efficient due to lack of air flow which causes higher discharge pressures. Both of these combine to drasticly reduce system performance. You may still have a vacuum problem as well. You can also install a valve in the heater core line that will help some too.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Not sure if this would help ease your mind or confirm that I have the same problem.
Mine has been the same as your's since day one. Even after it was serviced and tested after a worn through hose.

What does it do after you've run the roads for awhile then sit at idle?
Mine will stay frosty.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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look between the inner cooler and radiator and see if it has a buildup of debrise.this will restrict the air flow at idle .
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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It will go warm again even after hard work.

I'll have to check the radiator, but I'm pretty sure it's clean.

I wonder if it's a blend door problem.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Max1775
A lot of diesels have a problem with the a/c at idle. I always thought it was the low rpm's that caused it. The compressor is not running as fast, therefore the suction pressure is higher; and the condenser is not as efficient due to lack of air flow which causes higher discharge pressures. Both of these combine to drasticly reduce system performance. You may still have a vacuum problem as well. You can also install a valve in the heater core line that will help some too.

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I guess I thought that the AC compressor was cammed up to compensate for the lower rpms that diesels have.

I'll have to give the valve idea a look at.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Yes it is the low idle
chevy has the same prob with the 6.2 and 6.5 even with the heater/defrost i dont know about the duramax never worked on one and wont for quite some time. Hell my 7.3 is the first i have worked on sure i changed oil and routine maint but we never had a prob like we did the others including cummings
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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You can switch the door operations while at the max blower setting, you should hear it thump closed.
Also run the heater conntrols though their paces, see if they appear to be shutting off.
Another option is the hot water shut off valve from the core.

It sounds like a blend problem because it doesn't do it at higher RPMs.
I'm starting to think that it's losing vacuum that's holding the doors in their proper place.
There is a vacuum module behind the radio that it hooks up to, if you possibly can, measure the vacuum.
 
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low rpm and the fact that the condensor is hot and cannot get proper air flow from the engines fan till higher rpm.

we test a/c performance @ 2000rpm.
and you need proper airflow.
 
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