Notices
2004 - 2008 F150 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 Ford F150's with 5.4 V8, 4.6 V8 engine
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

overfilled oil concern...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 19, 2005 | 03:10 PM
  #16  
ChrisAdams's Avatar
ChrisAdams
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,393
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Dazz
Well, thats what you rich guys get for buying those Big Rigs. Ha!

My tiny little Tracker 2.0 costs about the same. I like the K&N filter, even though it is 8 bucks more expensive, because I sold filters for about 15 years, all brands that you might know about. Took a few back... Went to 'oil school' quite a few times, sponsored by Pennzoil, Quaker State, Castrol, and four times to Valvoline. I have sawed apart enough filters to fill a small pickup bed. I have also done enough ludicrous tests to make you sick of oil filters for life. The good thing was I was always paid for my time, and got enough freebies that I still have some laying around ten years later...

Any way 46 bucks is 8 dollars less than the dealership charges to put a 2.00 filter and 15 bucks worth of oil in, then dry start my engine, or perhaps leave the oil plug out...

So I get fresh oil twice as often, I prefill my filters (so no dry starts), and I am pretty good at putting the plug back in.

I also never get oil on my carpet, seats, etc. something you can not say for my closest two Cadillac dealers, or the closest Ford dealership.
Chris
 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2005 | 07:23 PM
  #17  
YOMAN's Avatar
YOMAN
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
i drained some oil out, and it look like approx 3-4oz of oil.

now its right at max line level on dip stick.

Thanks!
YOMAN!
 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2005 | 09:48 PM
  #18  
Ruckus's Avatar
Ruckus
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,322
Likes: 0
From: Northeast Ohio
YOMAN, I have a feeling you will feel better about it and will not have to worry.Good Luck!
 
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 11:07 PM
  #19  
patriots6800's Avatar
patriots6800
Senior User
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
From: Western MA
I've been using 7 and have had the same question someone out there has to know someone who works at a dealer and can ask them that question. I'm going to keep using 7 cause thats what the book says till i hear something diff. When i bought my truck they did tell me not using a motorcraft filter voids may void the warranty but that it was ok for me to do my own oil changes
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:00 AM
  #20  
ChrisAdams's Avatar
ChrisAdams
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,393
Likes: 2
Use any good quality filter, but be sure it has a anti-drainback valve. That's the S in some of the Motorcraft filters. I use the K&N but that is a bit on the pricey side.

Do NOT just dump in 7 quarts of oil. Filters vary, a lot. Do it right. Top up your filter with oil, filling it slowly. After you get about a third of a quart in it, let it settle, then pour the tiny bit of excess back into a bottle, or just toss it. about an ounce or two will come out, but most will stay in the filter for startup.
This will stop the engine from running dry on startup. The anti-drainback valve in the filter will keep the third of a quart from pouring out as you slip it on the engine.
This can add years of life to a motor. Dozens of studies back that up, and also Ford's demand that you use an anti-drainback filter, or no warranty. They don't want it dry starting, so why do it even once?

Anyway, after you put on the filter, and toss in five quarts and what's left from filling the filter, let it sit for awhile, you usually have to clean up anyway.

Then check the oil. Top it up but don't over top it. Book says it's supposed to hold an approximate amount of oil. They vary as much as a half quart. Heck, ding in the oil pan can change that amount, as will parking angle.

Also, filters can vary by 50% and still list for your truck. Much worse on a Chevy big block, where it takes a PH30-13-373 (fram numbers) that's half a quart, one quart, two quarts, all could be on the same truck at different times.
Oh, yeah, and a 16 ounce quart of oil can legally hold 15-17 ounces of oil. Most hold 15.7-16.3, and some stays in the bottle. I was involved in a court case some years ago, my company sued a major oil vendor. Too many bottles had 15 or less ounces. Another always put in 16.5. Heck, even a 12 ounce bottle of beer can legally only hold 10.8 ounces. That's a rip...

Then, after you run it, check the oil, and top if needed. This can be the next day, or next week. After all, it can't be more than a half quart low at this point, as you topped it. Running it a tenth or half quart low will not make any difference. Running it a quarter to a half quart over full can ruin your whole day.
Chris
 
Reply
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:49 AM
  #21  
Ruckus's Avatar
Ruckus
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,322
Likes: 0
From: Northeast Ohio
Chris Adams, Excellent lesson on oil filters.I was hanging onto every word. Thanks!
 
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 04:40 AM
  #22  
DOHCmarauder's Avatar
DOHCmarauder
Postmaster
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,074
Likes: 1
From: Las Vegas
Originally Posted by ChrisAdams
Oh, yeah, and a 16 ounce quart of oil can legally hold 15-17 ounces of oil. Most hold 15.7-16.3, and some stays in the bottle. I was involved in a court case some years ago, my company sued a major oil vendor. Too many bottles had 15 or less ounces. Another always put in 16.5. Heck, even a 12 ounce bottle of beer can legally only hold 10.8 ounces. That's a rip...
Chris



Isn't a quart 32 ounces????




Holy crap....I just resurrected a 13 month old thread.....must be real bored!!!
 

Last edited by DOHCmarauder; Jul 18, 2006 at 05:11 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:42 AM
  #23  
keith Ruge's Avatar
keith Ruge
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
YOOOO Chris THANKS for the info ,I like the info on the part of the filter.Thanks again
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:47 AM
  #24  
Beefford's Avatar
Beefford
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Just changed the oil in my 5.4 on Sunday (Have done it myself for years). When I started it up I heard a horrible knocking sound and immediately shut it off. Double checked everything and started it up again - no knock. Is this from not putting oil in the filter before installation. I never do and have never had a knock until Sunday.
 
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:21 AM
  #25  
yellow98cobra's Avatar
yellow98cobra
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From the book...
 
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:01 PM
  #26  
Hookin' 1963's Avatar
Hookin' 1963
Junior User
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, NE
You can also prime the motor's oiling system by holding the gas pedal to the floor and cranking the engine 15 to 30 seconds(with oil in the filter), let go of the pedal and the engine will start right up. No knocking.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
EP145
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
3
Dec 13, 2013 02:57 PM
tanman722001
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
Jan 10, 2013 07:50 PM
roadkingfl
6.7L Power Stroke Diesel
6
May 23, 2010 06:57 PM
YOMAN
2004 - 2008 F150
4
Feb 10, 2006 09:31 PM
YOMAN
2004 - 2008 F150
10
Aug 25, 2004 07:55 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:24 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE