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Old 06-18-2005, 05:38 PM
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overfilled oil concern...

I just changed the oil and filled up w/ 7 QTs Mobil one 5 20...i checked the stick dip and its a bit over max line.

should i drain some out ??

I drove around for an hour or so...thats when i found out.

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2004 FX4 5.4L

EDIT: Ok, the strange thing is that there are 2 punched holes between the level read on oil stick dip like this O IXXXXXI O .
The oil level read right below of top of punched hole on oil stick dip..
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:53 PM
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Idon't know why it would be overfilled, it takes 7 quarts. Did you change the filter, or maybe you were on a slope when you drained the oil and didn't get it all?
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:53 PM
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Wal-mart did the same thing to my truck. The manual calls for 6 qrts, but that doesn't make the dipstick mark all the way to to top of the FULL mark, this is ok. As long as the level is in the full range. Since walmart screwed up and they were charging my for an extra quart, I made them drain some out and refund me the extra charge. I don't think the extra oil will affect anything, but it would be pretty easy to drain some oil out.
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:54 PM
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I've done 6 oil changes so far on my FX4.... 7 quarts have always been added. I have the 5.4L engine. That's what it calls for. If you have the 4.6L I'm not sure if that takes 7 or less.

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Old 06-18-2005, 06:03 PM
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see above my post...i have 5.4L...its just strange thats all..

I changed the oil on level ground...and yes i changed the oil filter

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Old 06-18-2005, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by YOMAN
see above my post...i have 5.4L...its just strange thats all..

I changed the oil on level ground...and yes i changed the oil filter

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Have you checked your owner's manual? Both engines take 6 qrts. but some people insist on using 7.

I'm not making this up. Here are the specs:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2004/2004_f150_7.html
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:34 PM
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Page 273 of the 2004 F-150 Owners Manual lists 7 quarts of 5W-20 Synthetic Blend for the 5.4L engine with filter change. 6 quarts without filter change. 6 quarts for the 4.6L engine with filter change.
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wazeer
Page 273 of the 2004 F-150 Owners Manual lists 7 quarts of 5W-20 Synthetic Blend for the 5.4L engine with filter change. 6 quarts without filter change. 6 quarts for the 4.6L engine with filter change.
Ok, you got me
I never even thought the specs would list oil capacity WITHOUT filter change.
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:49 PM
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ya think its possible that ford is using the same dipstick on both engines...and therefore 7 qts shows up as too much in the 5.4. Maybe a dumb question but they seem to go out of there way to have as many interchangeable parts as possible. they dont even give you a model specific manual.
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 07:45 PM
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YOMAN, Because it is so easy I think I would drain a little out just to eliminate the possibility of blowing out some seals.Then I would check it frequently just to be sure you are not too low.Good Luck!
 
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Old 06-18-2005, 08:11 PM
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If the oil is overfull, usually about a pint does it, it will start to hit the crankshaft throws during operation. That has several immediate effects. One, the engine loses a bit of power, two the oil begins to foam. (on this new oil, there is very little foaming but the oil makers still say it will foam if you hit it hard enough. Third, if it is full enough, the motor may start to overheat. Just a little, as whacking the oil, and foaming it does not help with the cooling, one of oil's primary functions inside an engine. finally if it is really overfull, say a quart, it can start to emerge from your front or rear seal.

So you would notice this by 1. power loss. 2. foamed oil on the dipstick after running the motor and then quickly checking it. NEVER check oil with the motor running. 3. Engine temp going up higher than expected. 4. Seeing oil running down the back of the oil pan, or up front near the bottom of the idler pulley.

OK, so now that I have said these frightening things, my 4.6 takes 6.5 quarts with filter change, and that doesn't quite bring it to the top of the full range.

Still, if you don't drain it back to no higher than the full mark (motor cold, level) you will worry yourself to death. You can put a skinny tube down in the oil to pull some out if you like, or stop by a jiffy lube type place, and ask them to suck a pint, etc. out. Last time someone I know had to do that, the guy charged him two bucks, off the books.
That one had an extra quart in it, and had all the symptoms I mentioned.
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Old 06-18-2005, 08:33 PM
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Just saw where you posted 'elsewhere' that it was between the two holes. That just means it's full. Not overfull.
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Old 06-19-2005, 12:19 PM
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I have a "Quick Change" place change my oil. I am a neat freak so I stand there while they put their hands on my 5.4. With my first oil change on my '04 I guess they did not have too many 5.4's for experience. They told me "6 quarts". I said "7 quarts". We compromised. They put in 6, then dipped the stick. Quart low. Added the 7th quart.



4.5: 7 quarts. I cannot image anyone not changing the filter each time. So few bucks involved.
 
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Old 06-19-2005, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dazz
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4.5: 7 quarts. I cannot image anyone not changing the filter each time. So few bucks involved.
I used to say the same thing. Then did some research and found the filter starts to filter better at 3000 miles, reaching it's peak at 4500. So I prefer to change my oil a little earlier than 5000 due to fuel contamination worries. I also live in an area that exceeds the rough climate recommendations on any vehicle. So I change the oil and filter, then go 3000 miles, and just do an oil change. Not to save the 14.00 bucks my oil filter cost, but to leave it in when it's at its best. Then at 5000 I change them both.
I am using the 5-20 Motorcraft oil, which is very highly rated. So the costs of a 5000 mile cycle are 14.00 K&N filter, 13 quarts of 2.50 oil or 46.50.
I have used the Motorcraft filter, but the K&N is a very good filter, and has a great bolt on the top for installation.
Chris
 
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Old 06-19-2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisAdams
So the costs of a 5000 mile cycle are 14.00 K&N filter, 13 quarts of 2.50 oil or 46.50.

Chris
Well, thats what you rich guys get for buying those Big Rigs. Ha!
 

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