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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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95 Ranger A/C problem

On my 95 Ranger w/ the 4banger the A/C is acting up. Tried to use it for the first time this summer and nothing but hot air.

The compressor engages only for about 10 seconds after you first start the truck.

Checked the r-134a, a little low and put a can in it. The pressure seems about right, around 45. I had to repeatedly start and stop the truck to put the can in.

Still does the same thing. AC cycles on, starts to get cold them blasts hot air. I have tried leaving the AC on while driving around town, but always hot.

Switched the relays around in the fuse box thinking the AC one might be bad, but I still have the problem.

Have you guys got any ideas on what to try next. These AC problems confuse the heck out of me.

-Nate
 
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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It sounds like a charge issue. Usually freon is introduced slowly and one watches the gauge to attain the proper charge. By doing this, you can get the correct charge without overcharging. Overcharging will also result in a high reading on the suction side. Maybe you need more freon still?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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It might just be your pressure gauge. Is is cycling on and off, or is just turning on for 10 seconds then stopping. If there isnt enough R-134a then the compressor wont stay on. The pressure will get to a certain level then the compressor will kick on and the press. will drop. It just sounds like there isnt enough R-134a. Also make sure to have the A/C on max, and the fan on high.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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You need to do the charging with engine running about 1200-1500 rpm. Put an electric fan in front of the grill to keep ambient air flowing to condenser and radiator. Normal airflow is disrupted with hood up. You can speed up the charging process by putting the refrigerant can in a pan of warm water (no more than 120 deg. F.). Keep in mind, if you're low on refrigerant THERE IS A LEAK somewhere. Sooner or later a real fix will be required. Buy an A/C thermometer at Auto Zone (about $5 or $6) to measure air temperature at center outlet. With vehicle in shade, hood down, Max Cool, windows up, doors closed and engine @ 1200 rpm; temperature at center outlet should shortly get to Blue Zone on thermometer when adequately charged.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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I have since put another can of freon in and the same thing still happens. The AC will run for 10 seconds and just turn off.

To clarify, the only time that the AC will kick on is right after the truck is started. I have the fan on high and the switch on max AC. It will kick on then for only about 8-10 seconds. It will not come on again after that.

If I start the truck and then wait a sec and then turn the AC on, nothing at all will happen. Just hot air out of the vents.

I can get the AC ice cold by turning the truck off and on to keep cycling the freon so I'm doubting the charge issue.

After the new can the charge is around 45-50 still. I'll look around for leaks though. Might have to take it somewhere to check the charge on both sides.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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It's possible you are overcharged or have a bad high pressure cutoff switch (located on the high pressure line between the compressor output port and the high pressure gauge port). First, measure the low pressure after the truck has sat and cooled overnight (before you start it); I think it should be ~ 100 psi (I'll try to measure mine tommorrow). Then start and run until it quits cooling, then remove the HPCO switch connector and measure the resistance between the pins of the switch. If no resistance (open) the switch has opened due to high pressure or is defective.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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Since it seems nobody has a clue where the charge is at, you need to get a guage set (suction/head side) and hook it up. Disable/jump the low pressure cutout and see where your readings are with the system at steady state. Post your pressures here, along with the ambient temp. Run the motor at about 1200-1500 rpm. The A/C systems of the last 30 or so years use a "critical charge"; there is no receiver to store excess liquid freon. With this in mind, you need to charge within a few ounces of the correct amount. This can be done by watching the pressures as you charge. BTW, when you charge you do NOT dump in the whole can, but rather charge based on operating pressures. Adding more freon just because it's available is not the way to go and will lead to frustration (in all odds, overcharge). BTW, when you are taking readings never allow the head side to get to 300 PSI; I do doubt this will happen to you but be aware of it. Also, never let the suction side drop to zero; this may draw air into the system. Just a heads up on the boundaries.
 

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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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After sitting overnight the R134A static pressure in my fully charged '99 Ranger A/C is 90 psi @ 90 Deg. F. ambient temperature (measured at low pressure port). If your static pressure is very much higher then you likely have overcharged. On my previous post I should have said infinite resistance instead of "no resistance". Sorry!
 

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Thanks guys, I'll look into these things this weekend when I get a chance. It's actually been pleasant around here lately though. Highs around 80. Sure beats 95 degrees with 99.9999% humidity
 
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