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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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I have an 01 F150 Supercrew. I started pulling my 5000lbs holiday trailer and have found that it really gets bogged down on the big hills. What are the best mods that will give me the most bang for my buck. The speed shops all say intake kit and cat back exhaust. Will this really make a big enough difference that I will notice or feel. I would love to hear from some members that have went through this.

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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Rear gear change. Do you drive the truck every day pulling the trailer? Should you only use the truck a few times a year for towing, it will cost you more to drive it daily converted to a better towing condition.

You can make a stump puller out of it, but it'll drink more gas going down the road.

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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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Agreed, your biggest bang for the buck is going to be a rear gear change. What's your stock gearing? Which motor? Depending on your configuration, you may be able to make a swap without a big mpg loss.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by y2klarry
I have an 01 F150 Supercrew. I started pulling my 5000lbs holiday trailer and have found that it really gets bogged down on the big hills. What are the best mods that will give me the most bang for my buck. The speed shops all say intake kit and cat back exhaust. Will this really make a big enough difference that I will notice or feel. I would love to hear from some members that have went through this.

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There is nothing that you can do to that engine to make it NOT BOG DOWN on the same hill!
If you pull it a bunch maybe you should consider a gear change.. However this will cost mucho mileage when NOT towing!
There is NOT a vehicle that will tow easily and run around economically. You have to make choices with trucks.. Towing power and mileage do not add up to the same truck.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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well did you shift down to let the engine rev up higher or did you just leave it in drive was the o/d on or off ,is it the 4.6 engine or 5.4.if its the 4.6 then there is no hope it is underpowered for this . i tow 9,000 with my 03 expedition never a problem slows down a very small amount on hills but also has 3.73 l/s
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Wouldn't a Diablo Predator or Diablo Delta chip be a more viable solution than swapping out a whole rear-end?

Just adjust the computer for performance do your towing and then reset back to OEM for mileage when done.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Get an intake, exhaust, and then a supercharger. You won't have any power issues when running a blower
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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First you need to find out what your axle ratio is, and if you're running stock size tires or larger tires, and also what size the engine is and what transmission it has. Once we get that info, we can better help you.
 
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Originally Posted by fecampbell
Wouldn't a Diablo Predator or Diablo Delta chip be a more viable solution than swapping out a whole rear-end?

Just adjust the computer for performance do your towing and then reset back to OEM for mileage when done.
No it will not! You cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear! Keeping the same rpm with the same engine is going to produce almost zackly the same results! With that engine he will need more rpm... period.
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more rpm? Do you mean an engine with more power? or, do you mean that he needs to run the engine in its powerband?>\
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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more rpm? Do you mean an engine with more power? or, do you mean that he needs to run the engine in its powerband?>\
No, I mean using that engine he needs to change the rear gear and run THAT engine faster where it will have more torque. I guess more into the powerband would suffice for an adiquet description.
The manufacror of my chevy H/D puts 4"10's in them straight out. It runs at 2700rpm on the hiway and only gets nearly 12mpg..(not quite) But it is hell for stout with a 10.000lb trailer stuck on its ***.
The answer to towing questions has been more rpm...always.
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Sorry I did not include all the particulars. I got a 5.4 auto with the 3.55 rear end. I do not think there was an option to go to the 3.73 in the supercrew however that is what I wanted. I do use the truck daily but only 5- 10 km to work and back. I tow maybe 20 times a year. When I talk about hills I live in the foothills of alberta and venture into the mountains. I thought about downsizing my tires by 10% to make up for my lower rear end ratio. I need tires for winter anyway.

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Going down in the tire size will get you into a lower (numerically higher) effective axle ratio, but watch the tire load rating, as smaller tires often have lower weight carrying ratings. For a more permanent fix, a swap to 4.10 axle gears would be much better than changing the tire size. There won't be much, if any gas mileage loss with the 4.10's except at high crusing speed on the freeway, but your truck has the overdrive gear in the trans which will allow a descent cruising speed and descent mileage with the 4.10's. The towing capacity goes up about 2-3000 lbs between 3.55's and 4.10's in most trucks .
 
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The capacity will not go up, since the brakes and chassis are the same. Tow capacity is not based only on engine power, but on the size of the vehicle, braking system, cooling system, etc... By increasing the axle ratio, the truck will be able to tow the weight much easier.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by y2klarry
Sorry I did not include all the particulars. I got a 5.4 auto with the 3.55 rear end. I do not think there was an option to go to the 3.73 in the supercrew however that is what I wanted. I do use the truck daily but only 5- 10 km to work and back. I tow maybe 20 times a year. When I talk about hills I live in the foothills of alberta and venture into the mountains. I thought about downsizing my tires by 10% to make up for my lower rear end ratio. I need tires for winter anyway.

Thanks again
It surprises me that you are bogging down that much with that setup. I figured you had a 4.6/3.08 setup. Have you weighed the trailer loaded? I'd be willing to bet that it is heavier than you think.

Is your tranny shifting down to 3rd or 2nd in those hills? How much do they slow you down, 65 to 45?
 
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