sonnex kit
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From: La La Land
Johnny8,
No, actually, the normal fluid level is below the lip of the pan, so if you were able to take the pan down completely level, you wouldn't even have to drain it first. If the pan has a drain plug, just open it first. If not, you could use the pump, but it's not really necessary.
Put a plastic tarp down before you start this project. It helps with the cleanup, and it also helps keep dirt and sand out of the area where you are working, thus keeping down the chance that dirt would get onto any tranny parts while they're down.
Skeeter,
Dieselinnovations.com has them.
Pop
No, actually, the normal fluid level is below the lip of the pan, so if you were able to take the pan down completely level, you wouldn't even have to drain it first. If the pan has a drain plug, just open it first. If not, you could use the pump, but it's not really necessary.
Put a plastic tarp down before you start this project. It helps with the cleanup, and it also helps keep dirt and sand out of the area where you are working, thus keeping down the chance that dirt would get onto any tranny parts while they're down.
Skeeter,
Dieselinnovations.com has them.
Pop
Last edited by SpringerPop; Jun 7, 2005 at 07:18 PM.
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Originally Posted by SpringerPop
Johnny8,
No, actually, the normal fluid level is below the lip of the pan, so if you were able to take the pan down completely level, you wouldn't even have to drain it first. If the pan has a drain plug, just open it first. If not, you could use the pump, but it's not really necessary.
Put a plastic tarp down before you start this project. It helps with the cleanup, and it also helps keep dirt and sand out of the area where you are working, thus keeping down the chance that dirt would get onto any tranny parts while they're down.
Pop
No, actually, the normal fluid level is below the lip of the pan, so if you were able to take the pan down completely level, you wouldn't even have to drain it first. If the pan has a drain plug, just open it first. If not, you could use the pump, but it's not really necessary.
Put a plastic tarp down before you start this project. It helps with the cleanup, and it also helps keep dirt and sand out of the area where you are working, thus keeping down the chance that dirt would get onto any tranny parts while they're down.
Pop
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From: La La Land
I suppose you could do that, but if you inadvertantly let it run too long, you may find yourself running the tranny parts without any lubrication, a no-no. I prefer not to let hydraulic systems run without fluid. Bad things sometimes happen.
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yes... the article mentioned that ... the reccomendation was to has someone maning the key so as soon as you saw the fluid flow cutting out you could instantly shut her down... now.. my plan was to determine the total amount of fluid in the tranny and the torque converter and get a container that would hold a few pints LESS than that and just fill it then shut off the engine... that would get most of the fluid out and that would be better than nothing... any comments on my idea...?
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There are only about four or five quarts in the pan. Once the front pump has pretty-well sucked all the fluid out of the pan, and the pump runs dry, there won't be any oil pressure to continue to push the rest of the fluid out of the cooler lines.
As an aside, some folks believe that, at this stage, they can get an effective complete oil change by beginning to dump fresh fluid in the pan. This WILL continue to force out old fluid (somewhat mixed with the new), but that doesn't get the pan emptied, and that was the original point, wasn't it?
If you HAVE to drain the pan this way, just shut it down immediately when the fluid stops. Then drop the pan. Don't expect it to be completely empty, though. There will be some fluid that's still below the bottom of the filter, which doubles as a pickup.
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As an aside, some folks believe that, at this stage, they can get an effective complete oil change by beginning to dump fresh fluid in the pan. This WILL continue to force out old fluid (somewhat mixed with the new), but that doesn't get the pan emptied, and that was the original point, wasn't it?
If you HAVE to drain the pan this way, just shut it down immediately when the fluid stops. Then drop the pan. Don't expect it to be completely empty, though. There will be some fluid that's still below the bottom of the filter, which doubles as a pickup.
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A plastic drop cloth under the truck is a must. Even when you think you have it drained there will still be dripping.
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i have a really good mech who doesn't charge too much... i think i'll just get the sonax valve and the syn tranny fluid and have him do it... at least i know it'll be done right.. besides... i spent more than enough time crawling around in the mud when i put my gauges in...! Did i really say that just now..? man i must be getting old..!
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From: Shawnee, Ks
Originally Posted by Skeeter2221
I've search google with no luck. Where did you all get the sonnax kit. blackcloud.com isn't a tranny site.
This is by far one of the best upgrades you can do, helps the tranny and makes it shift like it was supposed to.
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