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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 07:09 AM
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OK, I have drum brakes all the way around on this truck with a complete brake job done two years ago. We've had a lot of snow and ice here in NC over the last couple of weeks and just yesterday, I started to hear a kind of grinding noise when I applied my brakes. It sounds like it is coming from the front and I can feel it in the pedal. I then noticed that I get this same noise sometimes when going around a corner without the brakes applied. Looks like I gotta do some garage work this weekend, but any suggestions as where I should begin?? Oh, also, every now and then when I try to back up I lock up like the brakes are on. This morning I wrapped it up and popped it loose with a little chirp of the tires. I thought at first that it was something to do with my torque converter, but now with the braking sounds....????

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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 10:03 AM
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Silk ,
Sounds like a brake spring has let go . With all the snow too , you may have got something up in there binding the release of the shoes .Id just pull the drums off and have a look at the wheel you are having the trouble . I would like to have had a little more of the snow here in Tn that you all got in Nc ..truck some over .
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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 10:13 AM
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Yeah, we still got plenty to spare! I've enjoyed it though; except for the 10 days of school the kids have missed and now have to make up.

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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 12:38 PM
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>OK, I have drum brakes all the way around on this truck<

Steve, are you sure about this ? You should have disc's in the front on an '82. The lock problem & noise could be from the caliper support wedge that has become loose.Follow your manual as you inspect everything.
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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 01:04 PM
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Hmmmm! Been years since I changed a tire on the thing, but I swear it has drums. I've spent so much tim under that thing that I'm sure I would have noticed the discs. Although, now that you mention it, my son's '77 Camaro has front discs....I'll check her out tonight and see if I find anything from your suggestions.

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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 03:14 PM
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If they used a lot of sand on the snow, it's possible all you have is some large grains of sand in one or more of the drums, otherwise the brake spring is a possibility.

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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 04:25 PM
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Steve ,
I must need glasses ..when I first read your post I swore you have a 62 instead of an 82 , didnt notice until Phillip mentioned it . Unless for some odd reason someone replaced the discs w drums in the front , its got front disc brakes . Mine has those damn slide pins holding the calipers on....worse design I have ever seen esp for removing them . Not sure what your truck uses but Im thinking you have the actual sliding caliper bolts that sometimes work loose . The slide may be froze too esp if its got a lot of road salt around it in the last few days .Once you take the wheel off , you ll have a good view of whats going on . Good Luck with it .
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Old Feb 4, 2000 | 11:15 PM
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when 85 disc brakes locked up, my fav. parts man said ford's around that time had "plastic" pistons. i replaced 1 side, 3 months later had to replace other side. pistons were not retracting
 
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Old Feb 5, 2000 | 09:36 AM
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Well, you guys are absolutely right. Looked under there this morning and yes, I have discs. Can't believe I've never had the front wheels off since I owned this thing. Anyway, I knew I was in trouble when I popped the hubcap and saw metal shavings. Pulled the wheel and the disc is deeply grooved. I've never done disc brake work and I hate doing brake work anyway. Guess I'll run it down to my local mechanic. He's probably starving anyway since I haven't been down there in about 3 months. I looked in the book and it looked too difficult for my feable skills, so I guess I'll go pull our plumbing apart instead. Got a bad leak in the shower.

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Old Feb 5, 2000 | 10:09 AM
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Slik,
After all you have been thru on that truck ? Get down to the parts store and pick up a loaded set of calipers(evreythings already put together). Have the rotors turned or just replace them(although with the quality of some parts nowa days you should turn em new out of the box anyway, but I never do. Some rotors are unbeleiveably cheap and some are outrageousely expensive, but youd have to pay for them in your garage or at the mechanics anyway. Bring the parts home and go to work on em "its self explanatory" you should have the brakes bled and the bearrings repacked in a couple of hours max. Im very dissapointed with your lack of effort Slik. Later,
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Old Feb 5, 2000 | 11:02 AM
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So I should get the entire caliper or just the pads? The disc is grooved real deep so maybe I'll spring for new discs. You really think it won't take much? It'll take me two hours to buy the parts!! OK, OK, I'll try it. All's I got is time and I really don't want to do the plumbing stuff anyway.
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Old Feb 5, 2000 | 11:22 AM
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Slik,
Since you havent done any maintenace on them in a while I would suggest buying what is called "loaded calipers" they will come with the calipers and pads ready to go. Clean and repack your front bearrings while your in there, Ok one step at a time. But youll be surprised how easy it is.
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Old Feb 6, 2000 | 03:21 PM
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Well, still had to do the plumbing work, but got to my brakes this pm. It took me an hour to read the directions and pull it appart. Everything looks great with nearly a 1/4" pad on everything except the outside pad on the driver's side. That pad was completely gone and the disc is grooved. What would cause one pad to disappear? Also, I'm still not sure why I would do the calipers? They look OK to me, and Sears had done a ton of work on the brakes a couple of years ago. I don't think they replaced the calipers though. It sounds expensive, is it really worth it?

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Old Feb 6, 2000 | 03:50 PM
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Allthough rare, I have seen friction just come off the rivets,and, of coarse, ruin one side off the rotor for no other reason. But also, it is more common for a stuck caliper to cause this.If you haven't removed anything yet,grab that caliper and twist and pull and push on it to see if was able to slide within the knuckle. If not,well it was the rust from the road grime that froze it to the knuckle and you can safely remove the rust scale and not have to worry about a bad caliper piston, otherwise,you will either have to not replace the caliper & periodically inspect the wear characteristics to insure it wasn't the caliper after all,or just bite the bullet & change the caliper.
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Old Feb 7, 2000 | 07:47 AM
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OK, I think I had the sticky brakes prior to the road grime so I've convinced myself that I need to replace the calipers. OK, I assume that loaded calipers come with everything including pads and anti-rattle clips; is this correct?

Also, if I get new rotors, do I need the disc kit also? Does that come with the bearings, seals and races? And will I need to get new wheel bolts?

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