Let's talk about sound deadeners
Elder User
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From: Deridder, LA
Gentlemen,
In LMC, they have the sound deadner and heat shield for $39.95. I bought the material and in the process of attaching it to the cab. They also have sound control mat for $12.95 (12X23 sheet). I am going to use the 3M spray trim adhesive #08074. Hopefully it will hold this stuff when the temp is above 100 degrees out here in El Paso, TX. On the can it said not be used for automotive headliners. Mid-Fifty has everything in their book from page 22-27. Hopefully this helps some of you guys out.
James
In LMC, they have the sound deadner and heat shield for $39.95. I bought the material and in the process of attaching it to the cab. They also have sound control mat for $12.95 (12X23 sheet). I am going to use the 3M spray trim adhesive #08074. Hopefully it will hold this stuff when the temp is above 100 degrees out here in El Paso, TX. On the can it said not be used for automotive headliners. Mid-Fifty has everything in their book from page 22-27. Hopefully this helps some of you guys out.
James
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From: NM
AX, I was at Lowe's yesterday picking up some Peel 'n' Seal, and saw the "bubble wrap" you are describing. It appears to be perfect for headliners because of the foil on both sides (heat rejection), and low weight. As I recall, it is available in both 2' and 4' widths. I would use the "HVAC tape" they sell right near it, rather than the cloth-backed tape, it is HD aluminum and is a commercial product made just for this, whereas I would expect the cloth to decay under heat.
I was curious about whether it would pop under the rubber mat (when stepped on), thanks for clearing that up.
I was curious about whether it would pop under the rubber mat (when stepped on), thanks for clearing that up.
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From: Durham NC
Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
AX, I was at Lowe's yesterday picking up some Peel 'n' Seal, and saw the "bubble wrap" you are describing. It appears to be perfect for headliners because of the foil on both sides (heat rejection), and low weight. As I recall, it is available in both 2' and 4' widths. I would use the "HVAC tape" they sell right near it, rather than the cloth-backed tape, it is HD aluminum and is a commercial product made just for this, whereas I would expect the cloth to decay under heat.
I was curious about whether it would pop under the rubber mat (when stepped on), thanks for clearing that up.
I was curious about whether it would pop under the rubber mat (when stepped on), thanks for clearing that up.
Hotshot
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From: Durham NC
I'd try scraping it off as much as possible and removing the residue with naptha (paint store, coleman fuel, or lighter fluid) that stuff disolves most adhesives without damaging paint. There is a commercial weatherstripping adhesive remover ($$$)available at auto paint suppliers if the naptha doesn't work.
Cargo Master
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From: Murfreesboro, Tennessee
Thanks, I would like to remove what's in my truck and try some of the Lizard Skin ceramic spray in insulation/sound deadner for my 2005-06 Winter project. Just trying to get my ducks in a row.
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From: Raleigh, NC
Tacson, you could also use acetone to remove the adhesives. I use it all the time here at work to remove adhesives.
James - you might want to use something other than that spray adhesive. It will lose it's tackyness when the heat cranks up. I remember reading the can pretty closely when I bought it last, but missed the part about headliners which is what I wanted to use it for. Needless to say the headliner came down. I expect you will have similar problems due to your location.
Fox
James - you might want to use something other than that spray adhesive. It will lose it's tackyness when the heat cranks up. I remember reading the can pretty closely when I bought it last, but missed the part about headliners which is what I wanted to use it for. Needless to say the headliner came down. I expect you will have similar problems due to your location.
Fox
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From: Durham NC
Acetone is a pretty powerful solvent. It will remove most paints as well as adhesive so try it in a hidden location. Wipe some on, let it sit for a minute and apply some more, wait again and apply a 3rd time. if you haven't removed the paint or gotten color on the rag try a larger space. I'd work outside with the doors open and chemical resistant gloves and organic solvent rated gas mask. Acetone fumes are deadly and extremely flamable, and it will give you a nasty chemical burn if it gets on your skin under a ring, watch or clothing. It is not soluable in water so you can't just rinse it off your body or pour it down a drain. It would be a last resort choice IMHO.
Postmaster
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From: Riverside, So Cal
Has anybody ever tried using "Goo Gone"? It is an adhesive solvent that is completely non-reactive to finishes, even plastic. It's a petrolium-based sovent that is cheap and available at any hardware store or Home Depot, etc. I have used in many times and haven't run accross an adhesive yet that it won't get off. I first discovered it to remove those pesky paper price labels that never seem to come off that new goodie I just bought.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
Postmaster
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From: Waynesville, OH
Yeah, Goo Gone works pretty well. There's a similar product I use called Oops, by Homax Products. I think they both have the same active ingredient in them. Both smell like lighter fluid to me.
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From: Durham NC
yep, both are naptha, which WILL harm latex paint. We keep a can of lighter fluid (1/4 the price) handy even tho we don't smoke to remove those #^%*& anti theft price stickers and some product labels that would otherwise require dynamite.
Cargo Master
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From: Murfreesboro, Tennessee
Thanks Guys I will try to pick up some Oops and give it a try. I really would like to see if the Lizard Skin is as good as the magazines are making it out to be. My AC unit would appreciate I know.
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From: Adams,CO.
Well, I finally had some time to apply the Lizard Skin product as discussed a few months ago. The product went on like a latex paint spit out of a sand blast gun. The whole job took 2 hours including masking off the painted areas. There was very little stank involved as the product is water based. Clean up took 15 minutes including masking removal and gun wash. This product is zero smell the next morning. I was able to do 3 coats which gave me a total thickness of approx. 080" thick.The really good part is a test using a heat gun,which yielded a 30 degree temp diff from before and after application. Sound will also drop after glass and interior are in. I will install the Mid Fifty kit next week over the Lizard Skin. This baby shoud be real quiet and cool when complete. Cost:180.00 and 2 hours. Rating: 10 I put 2 new pics under "Body Work" in gallery. Will update on next part. 
Last edited by El Cabron; Jul 28, 2005 at 04:16 PM.
Cargo Master
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From: Murfreesboro, Tennessee
Originally Posted by El Cabron
Well, I finally had some time to apply the Lizard Skin product as discussed a few months ago. The product went on like a latex paint spit out of a sand blast gun. The whole job took 2 hours including masking off the painted areas. There was very little stank involved as the product is water based. Clean up took 15 minutes including masking removal and gun wash. This product is zero smell the next morning. I was able to do 3 coats which gave me a total thickness of approx. 080" thick.The really good part is a test using a heat gun,which yielded a 30 degree temp diff from before and after application. Sound will also drop after glass and interior are in. I will install the Mid Fifty kit next week over the Lizard Skin. This baby shoud be real quiet and cool when complete. Cost:180.00 and 2 hours. Rating: 10 I put 2 new pics under "Body Work" in gallery. Will update on next part.