The only odor I got from the Peal and Seal was from holding up to the garage heater. It was a cool weather install and ALL of the products conform better if they are soft. My truck smells like new interior fabric, as it should. The 6" width is actually an advantage for most areas of your truck. Much easier to deal with the contours, floor ribbing etc.

Peal and Seal is definitely not the same product as Dynamat, eDead, Brown Bread, or any of the better audio products. Be nice to think I got $4 worth for a buck, but that isn't how it is. The audio products are designed to deaden the sheetmetal rattles emitted by high perf speakers. Which few of you have. In that application, I know for sure that Peal and Seal is inferior unless you do multiple layers, and the cost savings goes out the window. Not to mention the stuff is quite heavy. Who wants to add 100 pounds of tar weight to their truck? You'll have to run a 302 like Bill and I if you get carried away with the extra weight.

My Peal and Seal stopped the rattles, squeaks and road noise in its tracks. Dynamat would be better, but I can't hear any noise with Peal and Seal so what's the point? I'll waste the truck budget on something else.

Deadeners will NOT cure, wind noise coming through bad door seals. It also won't cure 2 chamber flowmasters when the windows are down. Gotta look at the whole sound picture.

 

On my panel and pickup I used a mat from building supply store, cut off a huge roll. It is foil on both sides, interlaced in a cube pattern with strands of fibreglass. It is about 1/4 inch thick, with a foam looking stuff in the middle.

I filled cracks (especially in the panel ceiling and sides) with that expandable foam spray first, then applied the mat with 3M adhesive, and after 7+ years has not worked loose, no negatives, etc. at all, as it should.

I probably should have used some tar type deadener for the large panels in the panel hey...same word..I'm on to something.. but I believe with the expandable foam in the cracks and solid coverage of material I think the affair barely fared fairly well overall.

No more attempts to rhyme,
Paul

 

GMAN

It just occurred to me your handle would be quite appropriate for a Rap Star. So busta rime here anytime you like. You suck at it, but that's OK.

Back to the topic. Total coverage is not needed for our purpose. Throw a few strips under the carpet and behind the kick panels. Stuff works like a heat sink and sucks the rattle out.

If than tinnie sound has got you down, just take U-self for a ride to town ...............

'fenders say Lowes is your low dollar bet, jus lay your twelve fiddy down, and U-B set ..................

Yo MC 'fendas
F100 Rap-Daddy.


Guess I better go back outside and mow some more now.

 

Dear God, please make it stop.

 

'fenders

What would ya think about extream dynamat everywhere (floor, firewall, back,and inner door skins under the door panels ) except the overhead. Then put the kit from Quiet Ride, that is a fiber backed with alum sheet over the dynamat and in the overhead. That is where I am headed. I wanted to eliminate all road noise and wind noise. I want to get it quiet enough to be enjoyable on a long distance.

 

George, once again... you're right ! Fenders, you suck...

personally I plan to use only Ford sound deadening ... oh wait ?? I think I'm on the wrong thread

john sorry I couldn't help it... fenders told me to do it !! honest !!!

 

Bill

You'll be way past fine. The floor, kicks and firewall are the most important IMO. Concentrate on the wind noise.

Earl and J

Don't be trying to squelch my creativity.

 

Hi All,
I was looking into the sound deadening products & decided that I didn't want to pay the $$$$ for the professional applications. Sooo I went to Home Depot, noted that the peel & seal is a butyl tape made by Protecto Wrap. Called those guys up, explained what I wanted to do & the salesman suggested a product that they have for sound deadening under tiles in a home. It uses the same butyl tape plus has a sound deadener attached. If I remember right, Home Depot would special order it for around $120 for a 100' roll x 30" or so (all measurements approximate, cause I had too much fun in the 70's & can't remember stuff too well anymore - LOL). They also recommended using a primer first, which was another $20. I am not at that stage in my truck yet, so I haven't ordered it. I have 3 vehicles that need the sound deadening, so I'm gonna order a roll when I get ready to go & hit them all. If anyone is interested, here's the website for the stuff: http://www.protectowrap.com/cat_floor_sound.php [img]chrome://targetalert/content/skin/new.png[/img]

Regards,
Jon

 

So nobody's tried Fat Mat? Just wondering...

 

Jon

Potential adhesion issues, and ability to make the many contours are what separate the good from the bad. Try some on a vertical curved surface, on a hot surface, and check on it when it gets cold out to see if it's staying put. The above problems are what I constantly read about this or that brand not cutting it on the audio forums I frequent. The fact that your product requires a primer to stay put on a flat surface, under flooring raises an eyebrow. Let us know, cause the price is sure right.

 

'fenders

Way past fine is what I need. Long road trips it is the noise and viberation that causes fatigue, within reason. Now the real reason is if the girls find out what we spend on the trucks , I want a quiet place to go.

 

That Whisper Mat CS looks interesing also.

 

simple question does anyone have a item number for lowes or Home depot I have beenable to find beal and seal at itehr of them and have seen nothing similar

 

I used the cheap fiber insulation from the parts store under the head liner. It did deaden the sound but the better inprovement was it keeps the heat out on a summer day.

 

I can virtually guarantee you the Dynamat products were not originally designed as a sound deadener either, but are relabled bulk industrial products. the Extreme is virtually identical to the roofing product used for ice dam damage protection in colder climates. Might have trouble finding it south of the Mason-Dixon line tho. I haven't seen the original dynamat yet to locate the original product, but my local Lowes sells a reflective mylar faced plastic insulation blanket that resembles Hvyduty 1/4" bubble wrap that I'd expect would add a good top layer over the sticky stuff. Nice and cushy under the carpet. Fabric back duct tape sticks to it VERY well for seaming and to hold it in place. It comes in a 4' wide roll (x 10' if I remember correctly) for ~ 20.00. And no, it doesn't crunch squeek, pop or permanently flatten when you walk on it. We use it to make "tire cozeys", covers that we put over our racing tires to hold in the heat between runs on cold days. The set we have is >2 years old gets jammed in or piled on top of wherever we can find room to transport them, and they instantly pop back as good as new when we pull them out.