Weight in bed?
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Weight in bed?
Just curious about how much weight you guys have hauled in the bed. I am sure most heavy haulers have trailers though. The most I have had was when I was doing my retaining wall last week. 2 full pallets of block at 2200lbs a pallet. I then noticed "Hey im not down to the helper springs so lets go get the cement too". 8-80lb bags of cement or 640lbs more that brings it to over 5000lbs. Still wasnt on the helper springs yet. My dad (who drives a new 1500 hemi) couldn't believe it. I took pictures also. Truck is 02 F250 7.3 w/8" lift and 37" tires.
PS. Getting the block down wasnt that bad either tailgate is chest high. The 400lb trees I hauled later were a different story.
PS. Getting the block down wasnt that bad either tailgate is chest high. The 400lb trees I hauled later were a different story.
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Without the lift, I'm not sure you could have done such a good job 
My stock height '01 was on the "helpers" or "overload springs" with a cubic yard of sand. Have no idea what that weighs, but wasn't overly impressed, nor disappointed, it did what I expected.
I have the helpers, and that big flat spring on the bottom, which comes on like gangbusters when you put enough of a load on it - much more than the "helpers".
If I ever redo the springs in the back (which I'm sure I will), I'll be sure to up the spring rate on them - I hate the slop they have now
My stock height '01 was on the "helpers" or "overload springs" with a cubic yard of sand. Have no idea what that weighs, but wasn't overly impressed, nor disappointed, it did what I expected.
I have the helpers, and that big flat spring on the bottom, which comes on like gangbusters when you put enough of a load on it - much more than the "helpers".
If I ever redo the springs in the back (which I'm sure I will), I'll be sure to up the spring rate on them - I hate the slop they have now
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i have the helpers in my truck, and probably had about 2500 lbs in the bed (about weight rating) and it wasnt hitting the overloads yet.
(avg value for cubic yard of sand works out to about 2700 lbs FYI)
(avg value for cubic yard of sand works out to about 2700 lbs FYI)
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I am pretty sure the lift gave me much more room, but it still wasnt sagging too awful. Maybe 2-3 inch drop or less. Not like the neighbors toyota that was absolutley buried hauling compost. I didnt have far to go im not sure if I would have taken that on highway. I think with a shortbed I am more limited by what will fit not how much it weighs (for most things that I would haul). How much does regular topsoil weigh per yard? I got 2 yards of that also completely full and heaped in the center. Well at least they charged me for two yards.
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My Stock 01' short bed super cab 7.3 liter 4X4 F250 had 2 cu yards of wet Tennessee Top Soil in it and it almost sat level. I think mine is still stock, but I did buy it used so who knows? I was impressed to say the least. The guy loading it turned off his tractor, walked over to the springs, looked real hard, turned, shaking his head then went back for a second look. He to....was impressed
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Nice I bet that sod weighed over 5000 too. The sod pallets I got were longer than my block pallets so I could only haul 1 at a time or they would stick out on tailgate. Im crazy but not that crazy.
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Originally Posted by iskybantilus
(avg value for cubic yard of sand works out to about 2700 lbs FYI)
It's what I expected with a 6200 or so dry weight, and 8800 gross, that's 2600 pounds... just right.
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Originally Posted by iskybantilus
haha, free of charge. well, my eng. ref. book says approx 100 lbs per cubic foot, and there is 27 cubic foot in a cubic yard ... 100 x 27 .... yep, 2700
Trick is, they were using a Bobcat bucket to measure it, so it might not be even close... The guy at the yard looked at it and said it looked like a yard-and-a-half, but he'd only bill for 1. Heavy, but the V10 ate it up like it wasn't even there...
Anyway, wasn't close to the bump stops and I certainly didn't baby it on the way home and it never hit - those flat "overload" springs on the bottom of the leaf pack where almost completely touching the curved leaf above it.
I wouldn't have had any doubts about taking it on the highway.
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A little over a cubic yard of 3/4" clean gravel in my short bed '05. Not sure what this weighs but the rear didn't go down much. For comparison my 2000 F150 could only take a 1/2 cubic yard of the same stuff before it was drastically sagging in the back.
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So sounds like the springs can handle the load but at what point will the axle break? Weight ratings of the rear axle for the 250 is 6200 lbs, 350 srw 7280 lbs and the 350 drw 9000 lbs. Payload is limited by this axle rating, 5200 lbs payload on my 350 drw 4x4, 2600 lbs or so payload on the 250 4x4. Difference in this payload capacity is the difference in the axle rating. The springs are the same on the 350 drw and the 250 so you wouldn't notice a difference in how the load sat but at some point the axle will give. There is a reason for the payload ratings although I'm sure Ford list these low for liability reasons.
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I drive around with 4-5k of sand and sander in mine all winter. Without the timbrens it would go down 2-3 inches on my new stock springs. With the timbrens 1-1.5 inches is all she wrote. I would recomend them, good investment and my springs won't wear out.
