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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Three heaping Bobcat loads of wet clay/soil for fill material and no sag whatsoever.
Sure did ride nice on the way home.
Got to get more, my buddy has good dirt now, and FREE!
Anyone know the CY of a level Bobcat scoop?
 
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Old May 13, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Most bobcat bucket are 1/2 yards
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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60 boxes at 90lbs per box was mu max ( 5400 lbs ). Truck dropped about 3 inches if I remeber correctly. only problem I had was the much increased stopping distance <s>
 
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Old May 16, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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That's great! What I want to know is could any of you guys stop you your heavily loaded trucks? I carried and towed massive loads with my 83 F250 with 300 six but I needed two feet on the pedal and two more draggin' on the road to stop it!
 
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Old May 16, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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05 F250 Lariat, CC, PSD, Torqueshift, FX4, Long Bed

My wife and I buy fixer upper houses to fix and sell. Our most recent adventure takes the cake. We hauled seven truckloads of broken bricks, gravel, sand, concrete, dirt, etc with our 05 F250 Lariat, CC, PSD, Torqueshift, FX4 Long Bed. The debris filled the bed and was stacked up above the sides each time. The rear definately sat lower than the front but the overload bumpers never hit. A full sized pickup will hold 3 yards especially when it is heaped up in the center as I had it. Gravel weighs in at 2500 to 2700 pounds per yard. Allowing for airspace between chunks of concrete and bricks, I would have to say I had on the order of 6000 pounds for each trip. I drove carefully and had no problems with the truck starting or stopping. I doubt if any other brand truck could do what the F250 can do.
 
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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by royek2
05 F250 Lariat, CC, PSD, Torqueshift, FX4, Long Bed

My wife and I buy fixer upper houses to fix and sell. We hauled seven truckloads of broken bricks, gravel, sand, concrete, dirt, etc with our 05 F250 The debris filled the bed and was stacked up above the sides each time. The rear definately sat lower than the front but the overload bumpers never hit. A full sized pickup will hold 3 yards especially when it is heaped up in the center as I had it. Gravel weighs in at 2500 to 2700 pounds per yard. Allowing for airspace between chunks of concrete and bricks, I would have to say I had on the order of 6000 pounds for each trip.
Interesting. That sounds like a fairly accurate estimate of the cubic capacity and weights of a load of that sort. We are restoring our house and barn from the 1800's and I make numerous trips to the local land fill. Our land fill gives a printout with the load weight. I'll check next time I go with a full load. By the way I hate to say it but that landfill is a real dump.
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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I can tell you about not stopping when under a heavy load.
I was hauling four cords of wood on a 16' trailer with 4' sides with an 01 F250 5.4
4x2 the pavement was dry. I came to an intersection with stop signs for the side traffic and a person {didnt want to give the woman a bad name} did't stop. I put the brakes on and just kept on sliding with another car to my right I took the media into oncoming traffic lucky no one coming I took it back over after the smoke cleard. She stoped after I raced back up tp her to get her to stop. My trailer axle was busted 2 tires were blown and my truck was still pulling it, ALL of it. Any way when the cop got there he just said what accident. And let her go, she was from Affrica {For real}and didn't even have a license to drive. Since we didn't hit the cop said there was no accident and I still can't figure out why he didn't give her any ticket much less ket her just drive off. Next time>someone is gonna pay.
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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With any weight you need trailer brakes that work well. You can stop real well with good trailer brakes...
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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I quit pulling so much weight after that. I was a little scared SLess. Thought I was a bdAz pulling that load until that incident. U got the 1 ton with a 5.4? I thought about getn 1, but didnt. How u like that 5.4 in that 1 ton?
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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I never haul much over 9000 pounds in mine.

Someone said something about axle ratings earlier.
The 250 and 350 have the same rear axle and springs.
The dually has the same rear axle, but the housing is 4" wider to let the inside tires clear the springs.
As far as stopping, when you get brake shoes and pads, get the good ones not the cheappy ones and drive it like it is a truck.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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This weighs a little more than 4 cords of wood.
With trailer brakes working properly it stops almost as well as my truck does alone.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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what's the REAL axle story??

Well that is interesting, I've heard conflicting stories on the axles being the same, etc. Last I was told was that all the diesel axles/bearings/etc. are the same and Ford only changes springs to give a certain rating. My '99 S/C L/B 4x4 PSD has a camper package (overloads), "axle ratings" of 4970# front and rear, and the camper certification says I can carry a camper that weighs a wopping 917 lbs! . Now the previous owner added air bags and I have personally put a pallet of moss rock that scale weighed in at 3800#+ in it (twice). The bed corrigation was crushed, but otherwise it handled the load fine.

I usually let the tire rating be my guide for what's "safe", but I've been told for LT tires, they are "under rated" by 10% (as in they have a 10% margin of safety built into their rating).

Does anyone know without question what the real story is on the axle construction?? Are they the same and is it just the springs that change??

Thanks, this site just continues to amaze me...
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Man, I could swear I just posted something, and I don't see it.

DRW is Dana 80, SRW is Sterling 10.25". I think that is regardless of powerplant, but maybe, just maybe, the SRW dieselis something different.

I'm talking '99 and up superduties -not sure about '05.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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I can not say for the newer trucks.
In the 80's and early 90's the axle was a 10.25" Sterling axle in all the diesel trucks including the 450.
Now it is a Visteon 10.5" axle in the 250 and 350. The Visteon is the same as the Sterling axle, just a different name after reorginazation. Some parts are even interchangable between them.

The only real difference between a 250 and 350 is the 250 has a 2" block on the axle under the rear springs and the 350 has a 4" block. Those blocks are 70 dollars from Ford. But the difference in price between the 350 and 250 is way more than 70 dollars.
Go figure.

The front axle in the 350 4x4 was a solid axle and the 250 had an independant front suspension axle that was junk. The only people this really affected was us snow plowers though.

And yes, your tires and wheels will be the weak point in the rear suspension. With proper springs the truck is capable of way more than the tires or wheels can handle.
I have one slightly bent wheel right now, but it deserves a new set of wheels after 19 years of this kind of work.

Also when you haul a lot of sand and gravel it is always wet which ups the weight figures about 15 pounds per cubic foot. Most granular materials weigh close to 120 pounds per cubic foot wet. They say to control the dust which it does, but they are also selling you water that evaporates.

Also most Bobcats under the 873 size can not get 1/2 cubic yard on their buckets even heaped.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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2 pallets of Slate, Fork lift Op said the combined weight was 5320#s plus 40 bags of thin set mortor!! Somewhere around 6,000#s! drove it 200 miles!! 01 7.3 CC LB has helper and sway bars (Camper package) and it was all it wanted!! 6,000#s in bed is hard to stop. I would not do it again!!
 
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