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Old Nov 5, 2000 | 06:46 PM
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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 08:55 PM
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MSD 6A work for our trucks? I'm also going to replace the coil, which MSD works? the blaster 2? blaster 3? blaster TFI, which is sopposed to be for ford, but there's also a blaster 2F for ford which has a connector for ford duraspark thingy...I'm just confused and want something to help the "3 crank and go" ignition on my truck (turn key, wah..wah..wah..VROOM) can't tell you how many times I've made friends cringe when I accidently keep key in start position on their cars for too long, hehehe

1995 F150XL - Reg cab/bed, 4.9L, 5-speed, Metallic Navy Blue/Gray int.
Mods: Tanno cover, bed-liner, 1200 watt Crunch amp, 2 10" Rockford Punch Subs, sony cd-player, K&N Filter, Flowmaster 40 series w/ no visible exhaust exit, BFG A/T 31"x10.5"R15 & Rancho RS5000 shocks
 
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Old Nov 9, 2000 | 08:49 AM
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The MSD 6A is an excellent replacement for the DuraSpark. It's easy to install and you should feel a quicker response off the throttle. You will need to run one of the Blaster coils or a coil that is made for a capacitive discharge system. If you really want to upgrade your complete system, drop in an MSD distributor while you're at it. The quality difference between the MSD distributor and the stock distributor is huge.


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Old Nov 9, 2000 | 10:27 AM
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I run the MSD 6AL in my 90 F-150 4.9L 4x4. I also dropped in the Blaster TFI coil, which was a direct replacement for the stock motorcraft. I also grabbed the MSD Ford TFI Wire Harness. This made things very easy to hookup, plus i can bypass the MSD and use the stock ignition should anything go wrong with the MSD. Installation was easy, finding a mounting spot was a pain, but the 6AL made the truck much more responsive to throttle, and I get a lot more RPM's and power out of it. (kinda helped compensate for the 33" meats with 3.55 gears, 4.10's here i come!)
 
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Old Nov 9, 2000 | 12:01 PM
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Ignition replacement ideas?

I agree, use the entire MSD package if you can afford it. Personally I am running the MSD TFI coil, and 9mm Ford Motorsport plug wires. That way when I get some "spare" cash, I can order the MSD-6A from summit. It definitely does "wake up" an enigne!

Your truck would use the MSD TFI coil. It is designed to work with the stock ignition hook up. That way eveything plugs in with no splicing.
As for the MSD Box I don't know about that, since I haven't gotten that far with mine yet.

Good luck in your search for more "spark"


1988 F-150 Custom to XLT Lariat conversion, 5.0 EFI (formerly 300 I6), 5-speed M5OD, 3.08 rear gears (will be upgraded to 3.55's), Summit headers, Flowmaster muffler W/ dual 3.5" tips 24" long. Caution Customizing in progress, Watch for flying tools & Parts!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2000 | 07:57 PM
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CGL:
You mentioned getting more RPMS out of the engine, currently my motor does not like to go over 3000 rpm, you're saying that changing the way the spark is delivered lets it rev higher and freer? I'd like to hear how that can be described, other than seat of the pants feeling.
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1995 F150XL - Reg cab/bed, 4.9L, 5-speed, Metallic Navy Blue/Gray int.
Mods: Topdeck bed lid, protecta bed liner, 1200 watt amp, 2 10" Rockford Punch Subs, sony cd-player, K&N Filtercharger, Flowmaster 40 series + custom exhaust (no visible exhaust exit) BFG A/T 31"x10.5"R15 & Rancho RS5000 shocks
 
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Old Nov 9, 2000 | 08:18 PM
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I run the Msd 6a in my 1993 F-150 and it did wonder's for the engine, I couldn't tell any mileage difference, but power made up for it. I also have the blaster coil.


Pastmaster's 1993 XLT 5.0 E40d 3.55LS Normal Cab/Long bed Loaded from the factory with aid of...MSd 6a ign/s.p. wires, blaster coil, Hypertech Chip, K&N filtercharger, Cat-back dual exhuast w/o mufflers, 3.5", echo tips, Accel distributor cap, Dark Mocha over light mocha. 5% Dark tint, Alpine Cd player/remote, Pioneer speakers.

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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 01:42 PM
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kevint:
With my 300-6, she did not like anything above 3000 with the stock setup. If I could, or needed to, take it above 3k, there would be little or no power. And above 3k it would make some god awful noises, almost like it was gonna blow. Once I put in the MSD 6AL (which has a rev limiter, anti-vibration mounts, and other things that can be added) and the MSD Blaster TFI Coil, I could easily rev it above 3k and the sounds went away. I can take it to 3500 and have power all the way, not just quit at 3000. (really noticable and needed when pulling out into traffic). Maybe because the MSD setup produces higher voltage, and multpile sparks for RPM's under 3000 and one continuous spark for anything over, but it also produces spark for a longer duration (20 degress of crankshaft rotation).

Just the other day I was hauling a trailer up a steep grade and couldn't quite make it in 4th (loosing too much speed) so I down shifted into 3rd and had power again. I took it up and held it at 3500 and kept going around 55-60 MPH.

Granted, it's not like upgrading to a 351 (which one day I hope to) But definetly better then the stock setup. Plus you can say "yeah, I got MSD".

Hope this helps.

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4" Superlift, 33" SS SSR, K&N Equipped, MSD 6AL, MSD Blaster TFI, Flowmaster

http://www.msdignition.com
The 6AL http://www.msdignition.com/images/pn6420-7.gif The Coil http://www.msdignition.com/images/pn8227-7.jpg
MSD 6AL P/N: 6420
MSD Blaster TFI P/N: 8227
MSD Ford TFI Hanress: 8874
 
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 02:56 PM
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CGL: Thanks a lot for the info, our trucks sound about the same except the 4x4, I just ordered a MSD 6A, TFI coil, and TFI harness from summit, but I can't seem to find the MSD plug wires anywhere but MSD's catalog and site, anyone know of a place online that sells them?

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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 03:15 PM
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Ignition replacement ideas?

You could get one of the universal kits from Ford Motorsport, and then make your own. The Motorsport wires are 9mm, plus they look cool too! They list in the motorsport catalog for $60.95, and Summit racing carries them for $49.95

I use these on my truck, although it's a 5.0 it used to be 300 Straight 6. Just a thought.


1988 F-150 Custom to XLT Lariat conversion, 5.0 EFI (formerly 300 I6), 5-speed M5OD, 3.08 rear gears (will be upgraded to 3.55's), Summit headers, Flowmaster muffler W/ dual 3.5" tips 24" long. Caution Customizing in progress, Watch for flying tools & Parts!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 03:20 PM
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@$@% $50 for plug wires? when I replaced the distributer cap, rotor, and wires on my `87 S10 with V6, it was like $60 for everything!

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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 04:00 PM
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I'm not sure where to get the MSD Super Conductor wires that are custom for the 300-6 yet. I'm still running the Accell 8.8 MM that I got from a friend who had a V-8. Any set will work though, Just check the lengths and pick the six that fit the best. I'll be going to MSD's wires if i ever have to replace what I got.

You can also try http://www.jegs.com they have about the same selection as Summit. It helps to have the manufacturers part number first though.

Either way, You'll be paying about $50 or more for the set of plug wires. That's just the way it is I guess.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 04:11 PM
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Ignition replacement ideas?

I guess the old addage would apply here. Right?

If you want to play you gotta pay. Or, more power = empty wallet (that's mine)
But, basically any performance plug wire set is going to cost money. If your going to step up theamount of voltage you are throwing to your plugs, then you will need to go to beefier wires as well. That's why I switched over to the 9mm's from Ford Motorsport. Mine lasted for well over two years (until one of the wires got against a header pipe and it melted the insulation off of it!)

But hey, it was only a suggestion.


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