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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Today I did my very first service on my 05 6.0. I have done gas engines all my life but never have done a diesel....well it was a mess and diesels are def. a diff. breed! I have one question to the 6.0 pros. What are the consequences of overtightening the filter covers? I read the directions and they really stress NOT to overtighten them. I let the truck run and it had no leeks anywhere but I did give them a little bit when I tightened them down.
Oh by the way I used Carquest filters which are made by WIX and I used Delo Chevron oil.
8300 miles and EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! Nothing wrong at all!
 
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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The consequences of overtightening the oilfilter/fuelfilter cover's is cracking them as they are only plastic. Get a 36mm socket (6 bucks at Sears) and go EASY. If you do happen to crack one replace it with a billet cap from Oilguard (better yet get the whole oilguard filter system if you can afford it) It comes in colors and looks COOL as a dressup piece for your motor, not to mention the OUTSTANDING extra filtration you get and added engine protection.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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No need to overtighten them as they have an o-ring for sealing. Same with the billet from Oil Guard. It is aluminum which is relatively soft. Only use the 19 lb/ft torque.

Why was it messy?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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it was messy for starters I went to do the fuel filter first. I started with the one on the frame rail and diesel went all over the frame...even with pulling the drain screw on the side. Withg my 36mm socket, there wasn't much room to turn it so it took a while. As I pulled the filter off, there was still fuel in it after I let it drain for a few minutes. Well I got it replaced but some diesel did get on me and down my arm. I did tighten them down but not that bad. Next time I will go easy like partsman said. ok final mistake was I did not take a drain pan under the truck that could handle the load of the 6.0's TANK OF OIL. I pulled the plug and let it go and walked away to get ready to pull the oil filter then all I see is black running across the driveway. To make a long story short the drainpan filled up and over. I have always done little engines like on nissans and such. All my other cars go to the dealer but I was going to tackle the mighty 6.0. Next time I will go under the truck with a drain pan that can hold all the gallons. Any suggestions where to find one? The drainpan accident was just a learning experience and other than that it went smooth. Now I have a HUGE black mark on my driveway to remind me to USE A BIGGER THAN NORMAL DRAINPAN! =) haha
 
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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I use a 5 gal Gas can i stick it under there flip the fumoto vlaue and it's done with room to spare. You can also use a 5 gal kerosene. But there is not a day that go by that i don't learn something new. Now you had your frist on the 6.0
 
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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then all I see is black running across the driveway
Sorry, you had me laughing there. I could just see and hear you running around after seeing that. So you thought it held only 5 qts eh?

Kitty litter works great for soakin it up.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Those orange buckets that are sold at Home Depot...they will fit...and a Fumoto valve is great...I keep my gallon jugs from the first change....fill one, turn the valve off, then go to the next and so on...put the caps on them and recycle nice and clean....easy to do it. I had the fumoto without the nipple on my X got the one with for the SD...like it better..


I live alone so if the phone rings or I have a senior moment, with the fumoto it saves the drive way, I do not get out from under the truck with the valve open.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tolliewolly
it was messy for starters I went to do the fuel filter first. I started with the one on the frame rail and diesel went all over the frame...even with pulling the drain screw on the side. Withg my 36mm socket, there wasn't much room to turn it so it took a while. As I pulled the filter off, there was still fuel in it after I let it drain for a few minutes. Well I got it replaced but some diesel did get on me and down my arm. I did tighten them down but not that bad. Next time I will go easy like partsman said. ok final mistake was I did not take a drain pan under the truck that could handle the load of the 6.0's TANK OF OIL. I pulled the plug and let it go and walked away to get ready to pull the oil filter then all I see is black running across the driveway. To make a long story short the drainpan filled up and over. I have always done little engines like on nissans and such. All my other cars go to the dealer but I was going to tackle the mighty 6.0. Next time I will go under the truck with a drain pan that can hold all the gallons. Any suggestions where to find one? The drainpan accident was just a learning experience and other than that it went smooth. Now I have a HUGE black mark on my driveway to remind me to USE A BIGGER THAN NORMAL DRAINPAN! =) haha
Just curious to why you changed out the fuel filters in your 05. Does it have 15000 miles on it already?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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oh, no.

Read the procedures in the ....Tech Folder..... before you do it again. Drain the water separator before you pull the filter on the primary fuel filter. Also buy a Fumoto valve.

At least you have a good sense.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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oh i did drain the water seporator before I opened it and there was still some diesel to come out of it. Where do you guys order your Fumoto valve from?? Oh and to answer bear hunters question....I change my fuel filters every other time. I used to do it everytime on my 7.3 but I realized that wasnt totally necessary. I tow a 50 foot pace enclosed race trailer often so I want to chenge them every other time. They will get about 10,000 miles on it then I will replace them with that other change. Oh my truck has 8300 miles on it now!
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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On that spot on your drive way get some comit or ajax. Wet it down and sprinkle the stuff on it and let it sit. You do this a few times with some scrubbing while washing it down and that spot will fade. I have been there before.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tolliewolly
.......With my 36mm socket, there wasn't much room to turn it so it took a while. As I pulled the filter off, there was still fuel .........
I purchased an extra 36 MM 1/2" drive socket that I was fixing to have shortened on the lathe at work when I come across this on another forum.

www.lislecorp.com/tool_detail.cfm?detail=88

I ordered a couple from my local O'Reiley; one for me and another for the son-in-law. This socket 3/8" drive so you can use a smaller ratchet and torque wrench too. It is made of aluminum or pot metal.

I'll be trying it out weekend after next. Hopefully it will work better than the bigger socket I used last time.


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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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drain pan

Wally World sells a big yellow drain pan in the auto dept. the top is open, it has carry handles on both sides, and a pour spout that is capped. I think the capacity is listed as 15 qts., but it held all the oil without a problem. I have always thought the drain plug was magnetic, and I check it out real good each oil change. I was afraid the Fumoto would eliminate that little shade tree mechanic diagnostic test. I'm sure someone can tell me if I'm wrong on this.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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After the first two oil changes, the fuzz on the magnetic drain plug disappeared. That is when I went to the Fumoto Valve. All four of my Blackstone oil tests say it is wearing normally. The magnetic plug will only pick up ferous metals. No brass, copper, aluminum or other stuff . So I go with the oil analysis and the Fumoto valve.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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If you will park the truck in a manner that has the front of the truck lower than the rear, then the excess fuel when changing the filter on the fuel rail will tend to travel away from you. Certainly read the tech tips on changing the fuel filters as there is a couple of other nice tidbits of info that will make the job a bit less messy as well as precautionary steps to keep from contaminating your new filter during the install.
 
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