MARK!!!!!

Here are some pics for you that I took this afternoon that show the trackbar setup on my 95 F350.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...oid=72950&.jpg

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...oid=72951&.jpg

https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...oid=72952&.jpg
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...oid=72953&.jpg


Hope this helps.
And yes, I feel terrible that I haven't had a chance to wash it..... It's not as dirty as it looks, and everything is a nice shade of semi-gloss black under the dirt.



Cody

 

I was thinking it went clear over to the frame rail. I think thats how I'm going to go because my front crossmember is a lot farther to the front than yours.

 

not to thread jack or anything but what exactly do you mean by bumpsteer? i know sometimes the terminology gets kicked around in here some and i wanted to double check. is it the change in toe angle caused by the suspension moving up or down?? or is it something totally different?

-cutts-

 

Bumpsteer basically means the direction of the vehicle changes (wheels turn) when you hit a bump even though you are not turning the steering wheel. That's about as simple as I can put it. You more or less have to correct the direction of the vehicle when you go over a decent bump.

 

Finally got it done. It rides better, more firm, and has no more bumpsteer. Pictures in gallery.

 

Good job, Mark. It looks like you did a great job...especially like the 'bling' diamond plate and spherical rod ends. Glad to hear you got this problem solved.

Cody

 

.. To achieve zero bump the front end must be designed correctly. The tie rod must travel on the same arc as the suspension when the car goes through travel. Simply matching lengths and arcs to prevent any unwanted steering of the front tires.
To amplify, if the tie rod was only 10" long, and the suspension was 20" long ...then, when the suspension traveled the tie rod angle would shorten at a quicker rate then the suspension arc. In this situation the tie rod would shorten so much through the travel the result the car would toe in drastically over bumps. The shorter arc of the tie rod would pull on the spindle and toe it in through travel. The Jacob's ladder is one way mechanically to keep this arc to a minimum. Works great on the rear of a car would suck trying to get it to work in the front of your trucks…however I have been looking at the for some time now…curious I am about how to make it work for your applications.
...if the centerline of the outer tie rod lines up with the centerline of the lower ball joint, and the inter tie rod lines up with the lower pivot point then the length and angle of the tie rod and suspension will be the same resulting in zero bump....That is a perfect world and tuff to do

 

Good info, but you said ummmm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . car. . . . . . . um yeah car , i dunno if thats a safe thing to say in here , but that an interesting idea.

 

Yea...I know I seem to get the two mixed up....only up in the great NW are the trucks soooo much taller

 

You're making this way too complicated Tim. A simple full hydro conversion would eliminate bump steer completely.

 

Balljoints!? What would those being doing on an axle?

 

Yea ok I get the message

 

lol

Well, it does speak to how each app is different and it does come down to math. I must have gotten lucky because I don't have any bumpsteer issue, even with all my modification and lack of trackbar. Putting hydro assist would help with this a good deal, but I suppose its not neccesary if big tires aren't being run. Anyways, your fix looks good Mark, glad you got the problem licked.

 

Now, on to new headers.
Nice to see the Cap'n back out front Ivan.

 

Mark's brackets got me thinking. I made shackle flip brackets for my rear susp. but I haven't put them on yet because people have said the shackles can bend fairly easily I was toying with making a u-bolt bracket and track bar to locate the axle after the flip. You guys that have a flipped shackle, what do you think? Is it really necessary? What are the odds of bending them?