Just got rid of my 03 EB and picked up my 05 Limited. Hands down this truck rides better, quiter, faster(midrange power), and sounds better(stereo). So, whoever says that their 03 is the same as the 05, model for model of course, is TRIPPING! By the way I am happy to dump my POS 03 EB on the dealer.

 

I was VERY close to test driving an '05 today to replace my running good '03 expedition, BUT, and a BIG BUT, I was steered towards the Super duties. Test drove an F-250 diesel...WOOOO nice truck! Anyways...I haven't had any problems with my '03...knock on wood. Might get out to drive one later...Good to know Ford is still producing a quality product.

 

I haven't had any trouble with my '03 Eddie Bauer either. I test drove an '05 King Ranch Expedition the other day and it was extremely nice.

 

was the throttle tip-in the same as your 03? What about passing power, much different

 

Excuse my ignorance but, what is throttle tip in. The passing power is great. My 03 downshifted alot and made alot of engine noise but, was not going anywhere fast. The 05 seems to have alot of role on power(passind power).

 

I believe "throttle tip in", is how far you have to depress the accelerator until the rpms begin to rise.

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks for that info. The electronic accelerator or whatever you call it does have take a lil bit a getting used to. After a day or two I couldnt tell the difference.

 

yeah, throttle tip-in is how much you have to press the pedal down before anything happens. Electronic throttle's are more adept to needing a higher amounf of movement before the engine starts to speed up. Mechanical throttles are a bit more sensitive on the intial tip-in, and overall are a bit more 'responsive' if you will than electronic throttles. Many are used to how a mechanical throttle functions and it's position related to speed, related to rpms that when they switch to electronic, the vehicle feels more 'lazy' or slower, when in reality the vehicle is actually faster than the mechanical throttle equivelance. Hope that all made sense!

 

Electronic Throttle Control (or ETC) functions a little differently than the old cable....In the old style, you would use the accelerator pedal to determine an rpm or power setting, then the computer would adapt the transmission and fuel curve to match...

With ETC, the computer monitors the pedal position. When it changes, it sees it as more or less of a demand for torque. The computer will then adapt rpm, transmission, fuel trim, and ignition timing to develope the amount of torque that you are requesting. The sensor is a dual feedback sensor. It sends opposite voltage signals to the TCM (throttle control module). There is also a sensor on the electric motor on the throttle body doing the same thing. The dual, opposing signals serve as a redundancy system. If the computer loses any of the signals, it will put the system into a limp-in mode. If it loses one from each sensor, it goes into a "get off the hwy mode" in which the computer will go to a very low, preset throttle condition just to get you off of the road. If it loses both signals from either sensor, or if it determines it can no longer control the throttle it will shut the engine down. This system is a blessing. If you are on the interstate with a constant speed, it will increase the throttle opening, lean the mixture, and adjust the timing to get ultimate fuel mileage. All without you moving the accelerator pedal. The only drawback is that three seperate computers/modules are used in this system and we all know what happens when you add more electronics...