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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Ford used to have shares of Cummins stock, which Cummins bought back quite some time ago. The Cummins available in the 650 and 750 is not the same engine as the one found in the Dodge Ram, however, it may share some of the same parts, such as the engine block for starters.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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my question is why is the psd and the cummins about equal when the psd is much bigger. i drove both trucks both the same in size and they seem to run the same the cummins has much more boost to the psd and the cummins sounds better , but i am ford all the way. i would not buy a dodge
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Cummins engine is available for the F550
 
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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Yes it can be ordered in a F550...but by the time you reach that size of truck, both the PSD and CTD are a bit underpowered, the CAT diesel is the better option.
Yes I have to chime in here too. My F-550 goes over any mountain pass I want and I only have to shift down once, maybe twice on the really steep hills pulling a 12,500lb 5th wheel. There's plenty of power there but what holds me back is the sound of the clutch fan kicking in and howling like crazy. I don't want to overwork it so I back out of the throttle until it quiets down.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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F550 specs from Ford.com: http://www.commtruck.ford.com/ctw/F550/features.htm

No mention of Cummins engine available. Only available in F650/F750:
http://www.commtruck.ford.com/ctw/F650/features.htm
 

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DD1684
You could order the Cummins in The 650 or 750, not in any of the 450s or 550s. Here's a good thought thoguh fellas....If Ford claims that the PSD is such a great engine, then why do they offer the Cummins in their larger trucks? If you think about it, International (maker of the PSD) manufactures engines big enough to fit the needs of the F-650/F-750 trucks, so why dosn't Ford offer an engine from International instead of Cummins?
I work at a Ford dealership, and the larger trucks can be ordered with either the PSD, a Cummins, or a Cat. The reason for this isn't because International doesn't have an engine that Ford could offer, they already have the PSD. The reason is simply marketing......offering fleet buyers the choice of an engine they are familiar or comfortable with.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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Actually, they use a 5.9 Cummins in the pickups and a 5.9 in the bigger trucks, but the pickup version is a 5.9B, while the medium duty trucks is a 5.9C. Same size, heavy duty construction.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Thanks for the link I belive now on the 650
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Hi 20s?? Like 25-27,?? I d like to see that post!!J
Went back to look for it---couldn't find it.

Must have been a diesel dream!!!

But anyway, you're right--they're talking 18-21 mpg.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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Thats good to here that they dont get too much better than us,,My friends with dodges, say the can get 20 ish but if you could get 27 that would be something!! I'd be lookinfg closely a dodge! thats better than a awd subaru!!
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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550 no cummins

650 and up, psd, cummins, and cat...

End of story, I'm actually thinking of getting the v10 with a 450/550.

Dave
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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I think you would be better off with a diesel.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Not wanting to hi-jack this post, here is my reason for the v-10.

1. I will only drive about 8k miles a year.
2. psd will be 4k, +500$ incentives, so about 4.5k more espensive.
3. I know most of the problems are worked out but still nervous.
4. only about 2-5 mpg better, and diesel has no cost advantage at the pump.
5. Hp ~50+ , Torque -110 less Oh well
6. Tow ratings with manual on 450/550's about the same.

I don't like the dodge but I went to a dealer and a 1 ton dually crew cab with cummins out the door would be less than 30K. Test drove it and it felt really nice was impressed but can't take the tiny crewcab. Ford can't touch that closer than 4-5k....

Dave
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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You have to go to an F650 before you can get the cummins, at that point CAT engines are available also.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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I'm 150% positive that you cannot get a Cummins in the 250, 350, 450, or 550. Has to be 650 or 750. Anybody who thinks you can better go do some research.
 
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