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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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Don't even get me started on the H2...
Alright I'll have to take your word for now. Chevy plus GMC combined sounds reasonable. No I do not think the Avalanche counts.
 
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Ok, so where do we think GM can improve?
I think they need to drop SAAB, loose all ties with Fiat, and buy more of Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru) - that is one company with a future IMO.

A bit more "back to basics" stuff like Ford has done?

Work on all their brands to (including Buick and Pontiac).
 
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I cant believe what happened to Buik and Pontiac. They were once leaders, now they can hardly handle following.
 
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BigF350
I take it you have never driven a Focus RS?
Lockers don't work to well with Front wheel drive... (can you say Torque steer?)
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I know about torque steer. I own a front wheel drive car that makes 250hp. The purpose of a locker negates it for onroad use. A locker on the front of any truck is formidable. I mean an electric or air locker. Not a full time. Cant have a full time on the front. No manufacturer would factory equip one on the back either. Compromises driveability too much. Regardless, a diesel with a electric locker on the front would be able to pull itself through some nasty stuff. I been stuck wishin I had 4 wheels spinnin instead of 3. Because the one thats not spinning is likely the one that could pull you out.

Legacys come with the 35/65 system. It can also switch ends it can have 35 in the back or 65 in the back. Very handy. I would pay my money if I could get this on a truck. The japanese version of the sti has a button to make it 50/50. This would be necessary on a truck. Unless youve driven a car with the 35/65 you cannot imagine the control. It is truly an ingenious setup.

Point taken. Towing with a front wheel drive diesel would suck.
 
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BigF350
I can ASSURE you they will never stop making RWD cars here in Australia, not within the next 10 years anyway.
As I said before they may as well withdraw from the market completely if they do drop RWD.

The torque of a great thumping V8 doesn't go to well through FWD does it?
Not to mention the packaging and handling issues associated with it.

Read this http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.js...3766&tstart=-1
 
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Ya know what the Zeta platform was supposed to be? The new Camaro, Firebird, and Riviera...among others. sniff.
 
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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for a 2 wheel drive esp in aplications like the S10 standard front wheel drive would do tons better in the snow since 99% of them never have a load other than sand in the back to keep them from spinning. a front wheel drive diesel is not pratical, but in 2 wheel drive cars except for sports cars it is by far the best. AWD 65 front 35 back only makes sence when you look at somthing turning in a circle the front has to turn faster than the back so it only makes sence that the front shound have more power going to it than the front to help turn and pull the front end around.

front diff lock or an air locker for the front would be as justifiable as the rear locker was on the dmax in our excavating application.
 
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Just because it splits the torque 65 35 doesnt mean one end is going faster. Just one end is getting more power. I highly recommend you give one a spin on an icy road. You will not believe it.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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I appreciate that thread, but:

http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/porta...opDefault.aspx

Go down to Q1 2006...

I know people who work within Holden, and they are NOT scrapping RWD.
The next Commodore WILL be on the Zeta platform.
The Zeta platform has been abandoned in the US temporarily, and Holden has full development rights to it.

Holden will be developing the Commodore off the Zeta platform, and once that is complete will most likely be engineering some models for the US market off the same platform.

They have stopped development of the Zeta platform only in the US.

If they are going to abandon the RWD platform, why are 3 of my engineering friends at Holden currently working on it?

I have even had the oppurtunity to ride in a mileage accumulation vehicle 2 weeks ago, and believe me it was RWD.
I don't know a FWD vehicle will smoke the rear tyres from the lights!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Logical Heritic
Just because it splits the torque 65 35 doesnt mean one end is going faster. Just one end is getting more power. I highly recommend you give one a spin on an icy road. You will not believe it.
LH, have you ever had the oppurtunity to ride in a Nissan Skyline GTR?
You would be amazed by the way the on board computers can distribute torque through a corner...
 
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bigf350 one has to do with the weight of the front end weight but you need to get in a 3.8 liter heck my moms olds van would smoke the front tires on it.

heck my friend had an escort with a stick, that thing would do one wheel peel for about 50 feet.
 
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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I know what you are talking about, My 63 Mini will smoke the FRONT wheels in 1st and 2nd...

I said I don't know a FWD vehicle that will smoke the REAR wheels...
 
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durrr sorry i missed the joke..... time for everyone to laugh at me now
 
Old Mar 29, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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I'm laughing Honest mistake, no big deal.
I think a front wheel drive car is only practical in a car such as a civic or focus. Very light cars that need the traction. A RWD set-up in say Lincoln or CV is much better than a FWD IMO. The handling on a car that big would be horrible if it were FWD.
 
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I'd agree- but our supercharged Riviera isn't that bad, as long as you're pointed straight ahead when you mash the gas pedal. Doesn't do badly otherwise though, and it's a pretty heavy car (4000 lbs or so).
 



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