who is in the know about this ? Will it replace the mod motors ? Will it be V-6, V-8 and V-10 ? I see the 6.2 coming possibly in the extended length Expedition that's going to replace the Excursion. But, what it be ? Ken

 

It seems that everything I have read on UAW sites. Next weeks New York Auto Show will be a defining day for the Hurricane. They are suppose to say weather it is alive or dead. Blue Oval News has it dead a month ago, but there information is factless and more rumor than anything. So we will find out next week. I believe the Hurricane will just be a V8.

 

A few weeks ago the Hurricane came up and it was determined that Ford stopped the program. You might do a search, but I think it was from BlueOval News?

 

Word is that it's dead, and from more sources than Blue Oval News. The story is that the 'Hurricane' never really got off of the ground. No decision had even been made as to if it was going to be all-new or based on the Triton. With the 3 valve V-10 and no more Lightning, what would be the point?

 

ford could do us all some good. and let us have a lot of fun. shoe horn the v10 into the 150 and name it super lightning. i can just think how the lighter 150 would run with the v10 out to say 7.0 or 7.2 maybe 400 hp

 

It was a new engine with the same bore spacing as the FE family, and it was overhead cam. Ford did so well in the first Trans-Am race of the year with the new 5.0 mod motor, it dropped the Hurricane project.

 

Latest new from the Cleveland casting plant where the 5.4 bloscks are made.
http://www.uawlocal1250.org/leaflets/ccp/ccp031605a.htm
Not sure if it means that the Hurricane is dead, or if it's going to be produced elsewhere.

 

Sounds Dead to me.

 

Nothing personal guys but other than the V-10, and the Mustang 4.6, the Triton motors aren't sparkling motors. Even the new 300 hp 5.4 in the F-150 has had less than rave reviews. I know these motors haven't been around that long, but with GM and D/C blazing with both barrels, Ford had better wake up.

The LS1/LS-6/LS-7 etc, etc GM motors are getting better and better and better. And personally if I hear one more time; "that thing got a *%$# in it" I'll choke someone. But 345 hp out of 5.7 liters, and the new 6.1 with 425 in the SRT-8 models are bringing buyers into showrooms in droves.

The 3 valve 4.6 in the Stang is sweet, the new V-10 is too. But let's be honest, that V-10 should and could be 375-400, easily. 445 hp if it has the same engine design as the 4.6 300 horse Mustang.

Yea yea, it's a small percentage of the SD sales, well DUH Ford, in 99 it 275 hp, then WHEN you got around to it it became 310, and now 362. It feels like we're being given just enough water to survive, but not to flourish.

This is not the way to keep us Blue Oval faithful, well, faithful. Ken

 

good post ken
that v10 could use some more c.i.'s . i agree with you 400 to 425 should be easy for ford but they will say its a truck motor and state the torqe rating

 

Fred says


Shhhhhhhhsuuush!


Ford V10s are plenty powerful now
and my insurance company has not cought on that
these things ar wicked fast for a great big 4 ton beast.

I seriously doubt Ford is interested in getting into a position
where there bread 'n butter sales (trucks) get to be
serious gas hogs AND bad insurance risks.

 

OK, but at least give us the option of checking a box for beaucoup horsepower without the full tilt boogie of say a Lightning. Which isn't even available anymore. Even the old Chebbie small blocks had 3 or 4 different hp ratings from as early as the 50's, 2 barrels, 4 barrels, 3 2's, 2 4's, solid lifters, on and on. Why can't Ford offer a more aggressive cam profile with more compression and a more aggressive EFI map with low restriction exhaust ? Sure it may be a low percentage market, I'd be willing to be it won't though. Seen many CTS-V's, S-Type-R's, SVT Mustangs, etc around ? Cost extra don't they ? I think Ford is being stupid, Coletti is a smart guy, but he's blind to anything but the lightest available body configuration, ie no supercab Lightning, even though all the tuners were begging for it. The thing is Coletti is gone, and Thang (sp) is a young aggressive guy who's taken over SVT. But, SVT will make special vehicles, not add to the option list. My rig isn't for business, I haul kids around occasionally, but normally it's just me. I have plans for lowering, dubs and some other modest things to set it apart from the 25 bazillion other Ford vans on the road. I like the power, who doesn't want more power ? 34 C's are good, 36 D's are REALLY good, right ?

 

Corporate Average Fuel Effeciency

CAFE

National Traffic Safety Board

NTSB

Department Of Transportation

DoT

Specialty Equipment Market Association

SEMA

A lot of people who are not willing to re-visit the 1962-1969 muscle car wars and invoke more rules and laws prohibiting it.

Ford is pretty schizophrenic as is Dodge and Chevy with there "Specialty Vehicle" offerings especially when it comes to getting good cross part indexes so we could find the heads, cams, and other goodies that make up the HIgh PO Versions of these motors.

I would feel a lot better bolting on Fords version of the lightning blower than an aftermarket one, unless I could definatley know that the KennyBell of Whipple is the Exact same thing.

 

I can't agree, the Hot Rod business is booming, even CARB (California Air Resources Board knows the value of cubic dollars of hot rod money and is approving speed parts for use on California cars, the strictest in the nation) I think Ford is missing it. I do not know why, GM and D/C aren't. BMW, VW/Porsche/Audi sure isn't. Let's look a little, just for grins shall we ?

Cadillac; CTS-V, STS-V, XLR-V, on top of that the SRX has a 4 valve, DOHC V-8, and the Northstar has been a great engine for years.

GM; S/C Monte Carlo SS (lame I agree, but with the new 5.3 V8?), Cobalt SS (S/C) new C6 (heck C5) Vette, Z06 Vette, 6.0 SSR convertible pick-up, 6.0 400 hp GTO, and most importantly, and this will be a huge factor, Mr Bob Lutz.

Chrysler; Crossfire, and SRT-6, 300C and SRT-8, Magbnum and SRT-8, (all with the *&^%%^ hemi) Viper conv, Viper coupe and competition models you can buy from a dealer, Neon SRT-4- 230 turbocharged hp, Quaife diff,etc, Ram SRT-10, too much bling for me, but a ballsy offering, wouldn't you agree ?

Mercedes/AMG, the word AMG says enough doesn't it ? E55, 469 hp, S/C 5.4 V8, SL55, and now the AMG V-12, good grief, 712 ft lbs of torque, those poor tires. The baby Benz has a kompressor, it handles, it's less than $30K.

VW/Porsche/Audi, Cayenne Turbo S 0-60 in 4.7 seconds, will ford 18 inches of water, pull .89 G's on the skid pad, rock crawl over the Rubicon, VW's R32, Golf GTI, 911 GT2, 911 GT3, Boxster, Audi RS6, Allroad 2.7 turbo, A8 4.2, etc, etc

BMW; one letter "M". The standard which all makers aim for.

Ford; GT (awesome, 1500 made, all presold and now commanding $450,000+), Mustang GT (best bang for the buck in the US, 300 hp from 281 cubic inches), SVT Focus=GONE, Lightning=GONE, Marauder=GONE, SHO=GONE, SVT Contour=GONE, SVT Mustang=GONE, what's left then ? Ford 500 ? naw, Free-(enter descriptive noun of your choice here, Star, Style, Bird), T-Bird ? luxo-poseur-mobile, The Harley editions of the S/C F-150 are gone, replaced by the SD Harley with V8 gas or (exploding) PSD's and the hopped up, 362 hp V-10, that's cool, but not really a go-fast nachine is it ? So, the Mustang GT, the Quasi-rod Harley SD V-10.

Yo BILL !! Wake up bud !! Even us long time Ford faithful are going to be looking elsewhere. It may still be a Ford, but it won't be off the dealers showroom floor. It'll be a 67 Cougar with a 514 crate motor with 6 turbo muffs, or a 63 1/2 Galaxie M code with a Tremec 5 speed and Currie 9 inch. Sure, SD trucks will always be used to work, but how many people buy SUV's to see and be seen in ? 90% ? More ? How many pick-ups every have more than groceries or bags of mulch in them ? Disposable income, it's being spent for more bling, wheels, stereos, in car video, 60+% of the 300C had the Hemi, for economy ? Nope, light turns green, I nail'er sailor, not when momma's in the car, but she aint always in the car. And I tell the guys in the office about dusting the punk in the Accord. Is that worth an extra $100 a month ?, YOU BETCHA, Ken

 

Ken

Brother I hear you I was just posing a thought as to why Ford seems so hot and cold on the go fast mobiles.. I know some oflks who have most of the pseudo hot rods you listed and thay all took a HUGE premium hit at the insurance desk.... I think Ford is looking to keep it's lead with the Truck sales and not jepordise it.

I do NOT think they had any crystal ball and saw this inverted diesel price and $2.00+ gas spike comeing and I bet it has then sweating big bullets... Luck for them Dodge and Chevy are bigger fuel pigs...

I would love to see a SVT V10 twin turbo King Ranch!