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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Whos got it, who loves it, where did ya get it, and has anyone seen it for a 96 F-350, other than ORU, they want alot of money for it
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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i've got it, i love it and i built it. bought the stuff from Shakerbuilt. cost me $200 for all of it. the problem with the 96 D60 front ends is you have a ball joint knuckle and that can be a hair tricky. talk to cleatus, he did it to his

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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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thanks bud, will do
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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I bought O.R.U.'s kit. If I had it to do over again I'd piece it together (much cheeper). It doesn't steer as good as before with a 6" lift & drop down draglink, & drop down pitman arm. But going to 9" I had no other choice. It has a bump steer problem now, not serious but annoying to say the least. I don't know what can be done if anything ? Because everything is tight & the king pins are shimmed.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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i've got it, i love it and i built it.
Ditto.

Mark, what shape is your ragjoint in?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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being as i have balljoint, building one would be a slightly different escapade, but seth, if you and ivan want to sit down with me this summer after i get moved, and help design something, i'd be all for it.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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No problem. I've never done one on a bj axle but I'm sure I could come up with something that wouldn't taco on ya.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Pro, I don't have a rag joint in the steering shaft, just a u joint & slide, both are tight. Bottom steering column bearing is ok too. It steered real good before the lift, cross over, & new tires. The new tires seem to ride ok & I've tryed psi from 30 down to 18 no difference. Put dual shocks on too, no difference & I've always had dual dampners. Found a crack in the frame behind the steering box & welded it, no difference. Will the cross over be easier on my frame ?
One thing though, the long end tie rod bar was a little sloppy, so I shimmed it a little (I know thats asking for trouble) but it wasn't that bad & I wanted to see if it would make any difference, it didn't though & the steering box seems ok though I havent messed with it. The drag link is at 7 deg.
I just keep thinking: It steered fine before I changed the steering & tires. & now it doesn't. Any ideas ?
 

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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Bigsilver,
I built one for my 95 BJ D60. It's really tall and raises the attachment point up 8.5 inches. I mounted the track bar on top of the leaf spring pack (welded the track bar bracket to the spring retainer plate) and the truck has ZERO (read: zip, nada, nothing) bumpsteer.

A diagram of the setup and block I made is in my gallery. SIMPLE to do and I bet you'll NEVER be able to break it. The really only crappy part is taking the knuckle off to machine the top flat and the top forward angle (down to the steering arm). Speaking of strong, that's why I DIDN'T go with ORU's. They only use 3 bolts in a small triangular pattern on the top and a weld across the front to hold the arm on....doesn't look too strong.

Cody
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Check out OTT they have awesome high steer arms for the Dana 60. They also sell everything you need for your cross over steering. Such as, the DOM tubing for the drag link, tie rod, heim joints, and steering arms. Not that you need to go that extravagant but they do offer really "quality" parts. They have website and are based in Canada.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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the only thing that'll be easier on your frame and steering box is gonna be hydro assist. thats why i did it cause i broke my sector shaft and bent all kinds of steering up on the trail

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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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I just keep thinking: It steered fine before I changed the steering & tires. & now it doesn't. Any ideas ?
Hmmm, so all your rod ends are tight, steering links solid, did you buy your crossover kit or build it? Seven degrees is more than fine. Any chance your alignment guy was less than perfect(I assume you had this done after changing this stuff). What tires did you have and what did you go to?

Actually, the crossover is a little easier on the frame due to the better leverage but like fishy said, hydro assist is the major stress reliever.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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I keep the toe at 1/16" in.
had 39.5 tsl's went to 42 tsl's
what about making a track bar for it ?
I bought the cross over kit from oru.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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That's weird Mark. I built my own and have no bumpsteer with a single dampener. Are your front springs a high arch? Reason I'm wondering is Pro and I both have fairly flat front springs and we don't get much side shift from the steering. If you have banana springs there's a good chance that your steering is shifting the whole axle from side to side and that you'll experience bumpsteer when they compress. IF this is the case a trac bar should fix the problem.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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highboy, there website kind of sucks, so i emailed them, doesnt really explain much about the dana 60 set up at all....
 
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