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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Subs w/out amp

I'm installing some 8" mtx subs for my stepbrother, the stereo shop told him you dont need an amp for them, so do i run the wires from the subs to the outputs on the back of the cd player or to the speaker wires? or is there another way that your supposed to do it?..thanx
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Good luck getting any juice to them. Go buy an inexpensive amp if price is an issue, anything is better than running straight off the deck. Not to mention you'll get voice through your sub, which will distort (and eventually kill) that sub real quick when you crank it up.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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I tried talking them into buyin an amp but they dont want to..so i figure i'll just hook it up for him, so how would i hook it up.,thanx
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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you have to hook it up to the speaker wires, there is only between 4 and 7 volts coming out of the rca's, if thats what your asking. runs suffiecent gauge wire from the deck to the subs, there gonna starve, get them all the current you can.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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I tried talking them into buyin an amp but they dont want to..so i figure i'll just hook it up for him, so how would i hook it up.,thanx
The shop didn't what to sell you an amp? Your kidding right? What kind of shop isn't going to what you to spend more money? You should have bought some 6X9's, probably would sound better than unamplified 8's.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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The shop didn't what to sell you an amp? Your kidding right? What kind of shop isn't going to what you to spend more money? You should have bought some 6X9's, probably would sound better than unamplified 8's.
I think that he was saying his brother in law didn't want to buy one. But Man, get him to get an amp!! even if it's a dirt cheap one!
it's gonna sound awful without! Why spend the money on MTX subs and not have an amp to push it! Hell, buy him one as a present or something!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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well its gonna sound bad, but just hook them up to the back left and right speaker wires from the CD player. is it a stock cd player or aftermarket? you really need to convince him to get an amp, tell him to go to www.etronics.com they have some dirt cheap amps there that will sound 10 times better than running the 8's from the cd player. they have amps for around 50 bucks, brand new out of the box too. and the kit to hook the amp up is only around 15 bucks i think.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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It is certainly not the best thing to use subs without an amp, but it can be done. However, if you do hook it up to the HU directly you MUST use a passive "low pass" filter so that the subs are only getting the low frequencies and nothing else. And what is going to be used to amplify the "main" speakers? Your stepbrother realizes that these won't reproduce the full music spectrum, right? Sounds to me like the beginnings of a system for someone who knows nothing about audio, and thinks he's going to get some "thump" by doing this. Correct? He's in for a rude awakening. A HU will probably make those subs audible and little more. And I would find another shop to deal with.

P.S. If these 8" MTX subs happen to be amplified Thunderforms, then you don't need a separate amp. They have their own amp. You need to connect then to the HU using RCA cables. This is the only reason I could imagine a "shop" telling someone that they don't need an amp.
 
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That was what I figured, They had there own amp built-in. That is the olny reason a sales Rep would even bring that up.

Easy wiring and limited space is the only reason to go that route.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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this is sooo wrong...and unfortunaley pioneer encourages with their walmart knock offs. when you turn the "sub output" on , on the deck it crosses the rear speaker output as well and they claim on the box and instruction manual it will run subs. sooo wrong, hopefully this mtx is in a full range truck box, but the only place i've seen those in the past couple years are pawn shops. sooo wrong i can't stress that enough.
 
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