I read an old shootout among the BIG3 diesel trucks. One test was towing a 7000 lbs trailer up HIghway 14 in southern california.

Ford 6.0 PSD - 85mph with 1000 rpms left before redline
Dodge and the Duramax was only able to do 70mph at near redline.

Are these figures the same for the 05 models?

 

All the trucks have more power than the 2003 but nothing else has really changed. I would expect the results to be the same.

 

towing a 7000 lb. trailer and those big trucks could only do 70 MPH tops? I seriously have to wonder about the legitimacy of that test, you didnt read that on the internet did you, or out of a Ford catalog?

 

http://www.fourwheeler.com/roadtests/129_0308_diesel/

 

Yeah I'd have to disagree, a friend (2003 Chevy Duramax Xtended cab)I work with tows an 8500-10000lb trailer every weekend and does 80-90mph on the highway up and down mountains. I know, he's insane.

 

Yeh that does sound insane. That thing will probably blow up at that pace. I dont know if those heads can take that kind of abuse.

 

I'll give you heads!
Just kidding - you know there are no head issues.

 

I don't think Chevy has head issues with their trucks, but I know the superduties have turbo issues, fuel injection issues, and tranny issues .He does this every weekend, and has been ever since it was new. Never broke it in, and will even do this while in 4x4 (transfer case isn't really meant to go 90mph in 4x4) in the snow. He beats the bag out of it and knows it, but he's never had an issue with it. I guess all Chevies aren't crap?

 

The aluminum cylinder heads on the diesel chevys have been a resounding sucess! No problems too report about them and Izuzu saved weight, I think it was a good idea. I think Pilot Injection is also a good idea, too bad Ford cant make it work right. Those D-maxs are pretty impressive I have to say.

 

There is one thing about GMC/Chevy that I don't understand though. While Ford sells the most trucks, the Chevy.GMC trucks have the highest MSRP prices while the Dodge have the lowest.

Wouldn't you think that GMC/Chevy would offer more discounts or price their trucks a little less than Ford?

 

part of the higher msrp is that you get more back at resale. hense the highest resale value of the big 3. so you don't loose as much as you might think and dodge has the worst resale value from what i have seen.

 

ok higher msrp can be argued either way because of features of a delux vs another delux but gm has the highest resale value for the big 3. so you don't lose as much as you would think.

Since 1999, we've used the same grade for each Pull-Off event, recording speed and elapsed time at the one-mile point for each truck. The above photo shows the starting point, at the 4-mile marker. As seen in this image, the first short section of the hill is a mild 2%, which quickly rises to 6% for the remainder of the pull. This year, all trucks launched from a dead stop with an 11,920-lb trailer, and ran full-pedal from the 4-mile marker to the 5-mile marker - exactly one mile. Elapsed time and speed (at the 5-mile marker) for each run were recorded using a stopwatch and a portable GPS. These tests more accurately measure truck performance - not just engine performance. Transmission gearing weighs heavily into competitive trailering performance, as does an impressive engine power/torque curve and governed RPM range. Ambient temperatures ranged from about 90-100° during the period of time allotted to the truck runs. The Pull-Off is most definitely a stress test.
Lynn Schmidt ran his completely stock 2004.5 Chevy LLY Duramax/Allison with just 3,700 miles showing on the odometer. The crew cab longbox reached 53-mph in 1-minute and 17-seconds. The LLY's maximum exhaust temperature eventually topped out at 1400°. Lynn's truck achieved the highest speed among all those running at stock power levels.

this is done by kennedy diesel

 

Not to be nit-picky here, but can I see some stats, or links that show that Dodge has the lowest resale value. Not saying they don't. I just wanna see how Dodge sits in this department. Thanks in advance.

 

well i can speak from what my neighbor (he traded in a dodge for a dodge ....his old truck was well maintained and only got 4000 for it torwards a new hemi and that was more than a ford or gm dealer would give him) or you can go to jppower and look it up because i can't copy and paste the stars let alone the site but ford and dodge both got 4 stars while chevy got 5 that is all i can prove i guess in my case the guy wanted to switch brands and could only get any resale value from a from the original manufacture. just my experience in northwest ohio.

 

In the HD pickups actually Ford has higher resale. Chevy can only claim the 1/2 ton market on resale.