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BernzOmatic Torch/Weld Kit.
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BernzOmatic Torch/Weld Kit.
Hi, new DIY guy here and got a question. I plan on doing some exhaust work myself, and found this Bernzomatic Kit.
Is that a reputable company? Will that kit fit my needs? I just need to do some light pipe torching and welding. No big projects.
Is that a reputable company? Will that kit fit my needs? I just need to do some light pipe torching and welding. No big projects.
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Alright anyone have a link about brazing? I have sweat copper pipe, and welded (electric at work, not enough practice) but have never brazed. I have spare copper pipe and would like to use it for my air compressor (yes it is the right type and dad has spare silver solder). I have only the single valve units, but I have two friends that both claim to have one of these (one did a/c at a rental house, the other said he thought he bought one about 15 years ago for one project) and they say they will loan it to me for this little project. I am saving up to buy one of the little "aircraft" style kits, and would rather not waste money, but I need to get this done and trying to save money by using what I got.
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Originally Posted by gbadgley
If you can solder, you can braze. Same method just let the metal get a little hotter. Greg
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The mini-tank sets that have sold for $400.00 for the last several years are now $250 at Home Depot. You know, like what the AC repairman totes around. The burning torch looks well-made, but I haven't tried it out yet. Comes with googles, etc.
On the subject of Mapp torch, it is truly a $45 joke for anything other that silver soldering and not much of that.
On the subject of Mapp torch, it is truly a $45 joke for anything other that silver soldering and not much of that.
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Originally Posted by itsoj
The mini-tank sets that have sold for $400.00 for the last several years are now $250 at Home Depot. You know, like what the AC repairman totes around. The burning torch looks well-made, but I haven't tried it out yet. Comes with googles, etc.
On the subject of Mapp torch, it is truly a $45 joke for anything other that silver soldering and not much of that.
On the subject of Mapp torch, it is truly a $45 joke for anything other that silver soldering and not much of that.
Scratches head,
Ok, because of my families background in electronics, I used to think "silver soldering" WAS SOLDERING with SIVLER SOLDER! (at least it is in electronics, and it is expensive) Then I found out this term was used for brazing. SO the Mapp torch comment always confuses me, as Mapp gas doesn't get into the tempeture range of the oxy/acetelene brazing setup. In my electronics terms, it would be a cold solder joint.
So what do you mean by silver soldering?
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silver soldering is just that, using a solder that has a high percentage (25 to 56%) of silver in it. you use it for heat sensitive (lower melting point and good flow) and dissimilar/plated metal joints. (copper plated steel)
link about silver solders:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwprod/hisilverbrazealloys/
about brazing:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwref/procs/
what to use:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwref/chart/
FAQ:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwref/faq/
a cold solder joint is when not put enough heat into it to produce a solid joint and is refered to as a cold joint even in electronics.
link about silver solders:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwprod/hisilverbrazealloys/
about brazing:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwref/procs/
what to use:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwref/chart/
FAQ:
http://www.jwharris.com/jwref/faq/
a cold solder joint is when not put enough heat into it to produce a solid joint and is refered to as a cold joint even in electronics.
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Originally Posted by MemOrex
Hi, new DIY guy here and got a question. I plan on doing some exhaust work myself, and found this Bernzomatic Kit.
Is that a reputable company? Will that kit fit my needs? I just need to do some light pipe torching and welding. No big projects.
Is that a reputable company? Will that kit fit my needs? I just need to do some light pipe torching and welding. No big projects.
I bought one of those about 20 yrs ago. I thought that it would be faster than a regular propane torch, to sweat a couple of plumbing joints.
It's as useful as tennis shoes on a snake.
Save your money. Buy a real torch kit.
My 2¢.
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Actually, I use the same kit quite a bit. I sweat all of the copper pipe in my house with it. I was messing around, and toasted a cheese sandwich to impress my kids. It works tons better than the old torch head on top of the tank style.
In all seriousiness, I have used it to heat up bolts on shocks, and brakes with great success. Its small size makes it eaiser to control the heat around brake lines and in confined spaces.
I had a Jump Pak type, Oxy/Acy kit. It always seemed to run out of one or the other in the middle of a project, about ten minutes after the supply house closed. Now it resides in a side compartment on our volunteer fire department rescue truck.
In all seriousiness, I have used it to heat up bolts on shocks, and brakes with great success. Its small size makes it eaiser to control the heat around brake lines and in confined spaces.
I had a Jump Pak type, Oxy/Acy kit. It always seemed to run out of one or the other in the middle of a project, about ten minutes after the supply house closed. Now it resides in a side compartment on our volunteer fire department rescue truck.