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From: Garland Tx
i hope this thread gets some of the 15 and 16 year olds here with 3rd grade spelling to understand some of us only want to help them out in the real world
I know plenty of 15 and 16 year olds with good grammar, and yet plenty with bad grammar (or should I say poor?). But I agree with whoever was saying 'doing it' works better than writing it on pre-printed worksheets. I hate those things, and I hate grammar and I consistently fail grammar worksheets and tests, but when I write and speak it's grammatically correct, so why do I need to learn the names of all of the parts of my perfectly understandable sentences? And about the comment about exposing us to correct grammar on this site, I thank you for your concern, but when we read grammatically correct learning materials all day, exposure to any kind of grammar on this site is not going to make a very big impact on us, especially when the majority of us use much worse grammar while talking to friends. All in all, good thread, but about 'its' vs. 'it's', I understand the contraction stuff and the ownership stuff, but when your using 'it' as a pronoun and want to show onership, ie "its owner" vs. "the dogs owner," do you use an apostraphe or just leave it out? ie "Its owner," or "It's owner."
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Originally Posted by Ford51
I understand the contraction stuff and the ownership stuff, but when your using 'it' as a pronoun and want to show onership, ie "its owner" vs. "the dogs owner," do you use an apostraphe or just leave it out? ie "Its owner," or "It's owner."
You would use the apostrophe to indicate a derivative, such as a letter/character missing, i.e. It's a long road home. Or, It is a long road home.
I hope knowing how to use the apostrphe helps my F-150 run better.
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either is correct, I believe. That's what's so difficult about the English language - so many variables. For instance, the word "irregardless"... for years, I didn't think that was an acceptable way of expressing "regardless", but it is! It means the same thing.
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There is no such word as: Irregardless
Look in any Dictionary, it's regarded as a Non-Standard word (Made up by people).
It's a made up word
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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irregardless
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just like Noone : No such word.
It is actually TWO words as in : No one showed up at the meeting tonight.
The only time I have seen the word Noone is behind the word Peter as in: Peter Noone.....Lead singer for the English group of the 69's & 70's ....*Herman's Hermits*
Look in any Dictionary, it's regarded as a Non-Standard word (Made up by people).
It's a made up word
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EDIT:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=irregardless
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just like Noone : No such word.
It is actually TWO words as in : No one showed up at the meeting tonight.
The only time I have seen the word Noone is behind the word Peter as in: Peter Noone.....Lead singer for the English group of the 69's & 70's ....*Herman's Hermits*
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That's what I thought - check this out:
irregardless [ɪrəg¨»:dləs]
A adverb
1 irregardless
regardless; a combination of irrespective and regardless sometimes used humorously
Just Google "definition of irregardless". You'll find...as I did, that it IS a word!
Regards,
Scott
irregardless [ɪrəg¨»:dləs]
A adverb
1 irregardless
regardless; a combination of irrespective and regardless sometimes used humorously
Just Google "definition of irregardless". You'll find...as I did, that it IS a word!
Regards,
Scott
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and its use is acceptable. 
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A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all. Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli. Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.
by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all. Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli. Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.
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I"m studying to be an english teacher, and I'm in some of the inner city schools in Indianapolis. It makes me cringe every time I hear one of my kids say "I ain't got none!" or something like that. I know I don't use the best of grammar all the time, but I sure as heck know better than to say "I ain't got none." Afterall, I ain't got no bad grammar.
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I have no real problem with others spelling or grammer, with the exception of the shortcut words (ie. 'u', 'ur', 'prolly' and so on). My older brother was literally a genius when it came to his electrical engineering abilities. He was, on the other hand, one of this world's worst with grammer and spelling! This did hurt him in life, both personally and business wise.
I think a point to be made here is clear communication is probably the single most important skill a person can have. You can have all the smarts in the world, but if you can't convey ideas, thoughts, etc. to others, you are bound to failure. Not total failure, rather call it limited success. This applies to both written and verbal skills.
I think a point to be made here is clear communication is probably the single most important skill a person can have. You can have all the smarts in the world, but if you can't convey ideas, thoughts, etc. to others, you are bound to failure. Not total failure, rather call it limited success. This applies to both written and verbal skills.
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